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Old 28-05-2018, 07:38 AM
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I have always thought it was ironic that a feud between two of our most despised former managers was responsible for fuelling the rivalry between us and Brighton.
Allison despised ?? did you dream that? just the opposite with most of the fans.
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The only thing M*ll*ry was famous for was being the first player ever to be sent off playing for England. 5th June 1968.
I was there for that.
Was in Florence on holiday and persuaded my wife to experience some football.
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The assassination of Robert Kennedy on the same day seemed to get more of the headlines.
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Depending on who you talk too, many older fans feel the rivalry kicked off following a pre-season friendly at Brighton in 1973, plenty of stories of incidents before, during and after the match, this was Malcolm Allison’s first full season in charge at Palace (he had been appointed in March 1973) and we were relegated to Division Two - Brighton were still in the Third Division at the time of this ‘friendly’ - when their manager was the aptly named Pat Seaweed, later that season, Brian Clough took over, briefly, quiting in the summer of 1974 to take over at Leeds, by which time Palace had a second straight relegation to join Brighton in Division Three - Clough’s assistant Peter Taylor ( no relation to the Palace winger ) was in charge until they appointed Muggery in the summer of 1976, by which time Big Mal had resigned and Venereals had taken over as Palace boss.

The rivalry certainly took a quantum leap during the 1976/77 season, as there were two league matches and an FA Cup tie that lasted three games, with major clashes at all 5 games.

However, many older fans feel the rivalry was already started around three years before Mullery became the Weeds boss.
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My main reason for hating Noades was that he appointed Mullery.

I was one of the ones who stopped going, which was hard to do at the time. Came back as soon as the young lad Coppell turned up
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Depending on who you talk too, many older fans feel the rivalry kicked off following a pre-season friendly at Brighton in 1973, plenty of stories of incidents before, during and after the match, this was Malcolm Allison’s first full season in charge at Palace (he had been appointed in March 1973) and we were relegated to Division Two - Brighton were still in the Third Division at the time of this ‘friendly’ - when their manager was the aptly named Pat Seaweed, later that season, Brian Clough took over, briefly, quiting in the summer of 1974 to take over at Leeds, by which time Palace had a second straight relegation to join Brighton in Division Three - Clough’s assistant Peter Taylor ( no relation to the Palace winger ) was in charge until they appointed Muggery in the summer of 1976, by which time Big Mal had resigned and Venereals had taken over as Palace boss.

The rivalry certainly took a quantum leap during the 1976/77 season, as there were two league matches and an FA Cup tie that lasted three games, with major clashes at all 5 games.

However, many older fans feel the rivalry was already started around three years before Mullery became the Weeds boss.

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I'd say 99% - the season before Mullery and Venables took over was when I think it really kicked off. I remember fights at East Croydon station after Brighton's 1-0 win at Selhurst which was basically an early goal for them (in a horrible green kit) then 80 minutes of solid Palace pressure capped by a last-gasp Ian Evans volley over an empty net. Then the 2-0 defeat at the Goldstone later in the season was when any promotion hopes died - and the first hearing of the Seagulls chant which they admit came about because they were outsung at Selhurst.
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Malcolm Allison left Palace the season before the Palace v Brighton second replay at Stamford Bridge. Likewise Peter Taylor left Brighton at the end of the previous season.
So both clubs had new managers that season; Venables and Mullery.

A 1-0 defeat at Brighton on the opening day of the 1974/75 season was certainly a catalyst.
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Malcolm Allison left Palace the season before the Palace v Brighton second replay at Stamford Bridge. Likewise Peter Taylor left Brighton at the end of the previous season.
So both clubs had new managers that season; Venables and Mullery.

A 1-0 defeat at Brighton on the opening day of the 1974/75 season was certainly a catalyst.
I started going regularly to Palace from 1974 onwards, but talking to various people, it was not the match in the League you mentioned that kicked it off, but a friendly in the Summer of 1973 at Brcunt@n. In fact it was the first match between Palace and the Weeds since the early 1960's, where there had been a cosmic shift in the status of both clubs.
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Big Mal knew his football. And here is proof of the great man's assessment that Mullery was slow (go to 51 secs in)
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It was simmering but Mullery's throwing money on the ground and saying 'i wouldn't give you that for Palace' sealed the deal. 1975. Following five seasons parts of hell broke loose when we met to underpin the future disdain.
oddly there was a much earlier incident when bert head waited for mullery to arrive by train at norwood only to hear on the radio he'd signed for fulham?
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I started going regularly to Palace from 1974 onwards, but talking to various people, it was not the match in the League you mentioned that kicked it off, but a friendly in the Summer of 1973 at Brcunt@n. In fact it was the first match between Palace and the Weeds since the early 1960's, where there had been a cosmic shift in the status of both clubs.
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A fascinating video of the rivalry between Allison and Mullery. I love the reasonable way in which they argue, despite an evident dislike of each other, in sharp contrast as to how people nowadays almost always abandon objective argument in debates and resort to taking 'offense' and ad hominem attacks.

It's interesting here that we have two men who arguably fashioned a rivalry between two clubs that had little erstwhile reason to exist and yet grows every year...

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The video on after that one is fascinating as well. Shows the **** George Beat breaking another players leg, just like he did years later to our own Ian Evans. ****.
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My main reason for hating Noades was that he appointed Mullery.

I was one of the ones who stopped going, which was hard to do at the time. Came back as soon as the young lad Coppell turned up
Didn't our gates go down to about 4,000 then Mullery was manager?
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