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Old 14-08-2018, 09:18 PM
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Italian Motorway Bridge Collapses

Good God, what a way to go. Horrific. How does this stuff happen ?

RIP all the victims
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Horrible. I heard quotes from regular bridge users saying they often felt unsafe using it.
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Drove over it while listening to the Palace game on Saturday - loads of bridges and tunnels around there
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From what I heard it took a direct lightning hit.

Still should have survived that though surely.
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Where in Italy which motorway?
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Shocking how one of the main support structures can collapse like that.

I'm no civil engineer - but I did IT for a firm once and they were employed to take core samples of bridge and tunnel supports to check all was okay.

Was this not happening?
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Italian economy is ****ed with debt - there spending on road infrastructure falling at a worse rate than the UK and they dont even have a Brexit blame-hound.
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Shocking how one of the main support structures can collapse like that.

I'm no civil engineer - but I did IT for a firm once and they were employed to take core samples of bridge and tunnel supports to check all was okay.

Was this not happening?
Apparently maintenance for this bridge was complicated by the concrete-wrapped metal cables. So they couldn't see the state of the core metal.
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Apparently maintenance for this bridge was complicated by the concrete-wrapped metal cables. So they couldn't see the state of the core metal.
Yes the correct procedure given all the prior evidence would have been to close the bridge, then demolish the bridge and rebuild it from scratch fit for purpose in the 21st century

Unfortunately as a result the traffic would have been awful not good for political votes and the cost of replacing would have had a few squirming

Sadly dozens of people have now had to die to fast track the process
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An industry expert on Radio 4 included, amongst other things, in his interview the fact that the Italian Mafia had the whole concrete business wrapped up and were notorious for including more sand and pebble in the mix than the more expensive cement element.
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An industry expert on Radio 4 included, amongst other things, in his interview the fact that the Italian Mafia had the whole concrete business wrapped up and were notorious for including more sand and pebble in the mix than the more expensive cement element.
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Shocking how one of the main support structures can collapse like that.

I'm no civil engineer - but I did IT for a firm once and they were employed to take core samples of bridge and tunnel supports to check all was okay.

Was this not happening?
Me neither, not a town planner either but you do have to ask yourself what cupid stunt put blocks of flats directly under a bridge.
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Me neither, not a town planner either but you do have to ask yourself what cupid stunt put blocks of flats directly under a bridge.
You are really asking about Italian local government planning decisions?
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Me neither, not a town planner either but you do have to ask yourself what cupid stunt put blocks of flats directly under a bridge.
You've obviously never been to Genoa and clearly don't understand the local geography.
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