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I take my eight year old lad into the Whitehorse every week.

Seriously don't get what the problem is. Part of going to the football is a rite of passage. You get to see and experience the real world outside of school and Cubs etc.

What you do is explain what's going on and give your kids enough respect to let them work stuff out for themselves.

It does them no harm and actually give you an opportunity to teach them some real life stuff.
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Oi, No!

Myself and Biggin live a similar distance from the ground, and I resent your implication that I am a second class Palace fan. As the old adage goes, if you're Croydon, you're Palace.

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So would you not be better off moving to the other side of the whitehorse or another part of the ground. Surely it no shite sherlock that if your in that corner your going to get abuse. Doesn't matter which teams visiting.
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I take my eight year old lad into the Whitehorse every week.

Seriously don't get what the problem is. Part of going to the football is a rite of passage. You get to see and experience the real world outside of school and Cubs etc.

What you do is explain what's going on and give your kids enough respect to let them work stuff out for themselves.

It does them no harm and actually give you an opportunity to teach them some real life stuff.
I agree with this. I always remember football games as a kid and we used to see worse than what kids see now. I do however feel that the stewards could have done more today.
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They were absolutely disgusting today. Worst this season.
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So would you not be better off moving to the other side of the whitehorse or another part of the ground. Surely it no shite sherlock that if your in that corner your going to get abuse. Doesn't matter which teams visiting.

I tried to move to the other side of the Whitehorse when I renewed last season as my younger boy loves the football but not the aggression and noise, but there were no seats spare. It's not always as easy as one may think.
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Had a season ticket for a few years in the Whitehorse on the Main stand side so we weren't next to the away fans. Have not been in favour of having the away fans right next to families due to the usual goading.

I was always happy to tolerate the odd bit of swearing, but if someone was getting out of control a reminder we were in the family stand usually worked in getting people to tone it down. Have now got a season tickets in LH but ended being on my own today in the Whitehorse next to the Utd fans.

I was stunned by some of the Palace fans to be honest. One guy with a kid of about 4 or 5 sitting on his lap but standing up quite a few times with his son in one arm so the other was free for whim to make W***** signs and shout f... off you c... at regular intervals. A fair few others with very small kids giving it large, constant swearing and goading. It wasn't that they were getting upset by abuse from the Utd fans but seemed to see it as part of the day out and made the abuse from Utd fans far worse. Do you call yourself parents,bloody embarrassing.

Yes the Utd fans were over the top with the goal celebration and goading later in the game, yes the stewards should have done more but jeez some parents, if you want to give it large don't do it in the family stand and not when small kids are with or around you.

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Had a season ticket for a few years in the Whitehorse on the Main stand side so we weren't next to the away fans. Have not been in favour of having the away fans right next to families due to the usual goading.

I was always happy to tolerate the odd bit of swearing, but if someone was getting out of control a reminder we were in the family stand usually worked in getting people to tone it down. Have now got a season tickets in LH but ended being on my own today in the Whitehorse next to the Utd fans.

I was stunned by some of the Palace fans to be honest. One guy with a kid of about 4 or 5 sitting on his lap but standing up quite a few times with his son in one arm so the other was free for whim to make W***** signs and shout f... off you c... at regular intervals. A fair few others with very small kids giving it large, constant swearing and goading. It wasn't that they were getting upset by abuse from the Utd fans but seemed to see it as part of the day out and made the abuse from Utd fans far worse. Do you call yourself parents,bloody embarrassing.

Yes the Utd fans were over the top with the goal celebration and goading later in the game, yes the stewards should have done more but jeez some parents, if you want to give it large don't do it in the family stand and not when small kids are with or around you.
Man United fans were giving it large from the 1st to the 90th minute. Wrong for Palace fans to react but almost exclusively it's been a reaction to away fans rather than Palace fans starting it.

Every single time I looked over someone was calling someone in the whitehorse a wanker. Then one of our guys did something and was accused (wrongly) of doing plane signs but the stewards did nothing in the away end, as they always do.
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Not defending bad behaviour but what power does a steward really have?

Power of arrest?- no more than any of us.

Remove a disruptive individual - well yes, but it would take a very brave, if not foolhardy, individual, to steam into 2000+ men to do that.

I know that many will say "well, that's there job" but, honestly, for the minimum wage, how many of us would?

Isn't it a much better idea for football fans to begin behaving like the regular human beings that, at least the majority do, every other day of the week?
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Man United fans were giving it large from the 1st to the 90th minute. Wrong for Palace fans to react but almost exclusively it's been a reaction to away fans rather than Palace fans starting it.

Every single time I looked over someone was calling someone in the whitehorse a wanker. Then one of our guys did something and was accused (wrongly) of doing plane signs but the stewards did nothing in the away end, as they always do.
You are right, the Utd fans were giving it large and but I certainly saw a couple of people doing the plane signs. As you say stewards did very little in the away end as always, although I did see a couple of Utd thrown out. My point is why act like an idiot in front of your own kid? Just a shame that the away fans are right next to the family stand with no obvious solution in sight.
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Not defending bad behaviour but what power does a steward really have?

Power of arrest?- no more than any of us.

Remove a disruptive individual - well yes, but it would take a very brave, if not foolhardy, individual, to steam into 2000+ men to do that.

I know that many will say "well, that's there job" but, honestly, for the minimum wage, how many of us would?

Isn't it a much better idea for football fans to begin behaving like the regular human beings that, at least the majority do, every other day of the week?
Yeah. The stewards aren't really there to do anything other than stop major disorder really tbh.
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Yeah. The stewards aren't really there to do anything other than stop major disorder really tbh.
They usually seem to ask palace fans to behave if they are misbehaving but I agree they did not yesterday.

To those who say I should move seats I have had these seats for 15 years there are 8 of us and my daughter has my late fathers seat I should not have to move seats and I am not talking about the odd wanker sign I am talking about constant wanker and aggressiveness directly In front of the stewards.

At other grounds this season stewards have addressed this to our fans guy in front of me at west brom got thrown out, Spurs stewards spoke to people. Stewards should do something I am ex sia registered and when I worked if someone was misbehaving they would be kicked out of the venue regardless of whom they were with.

A quiet word " do that again and you are out mate" would probably have been enough they would have then either stopped or moved further back in the stand. Is the stewards job really only to stop people getting on the pitch ?

Oh and breaking rocks the SIA registered stewards (generally the ones in yellow vests) are not on minimum wage they will be on at least 12 ph and I am not talking about steaming in just having a word and not letting someone lean over them and take the piss.
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The main problem is that Man Utd fans are, just like Leeds fans, utterly contemptible scum.
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Usually the assistant head steward has a word to those around me, even yesterday he came in and spoke to one palace bloke in front of me
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Perhaps I'm just imagining it but didn't Parish say that last season they were by far the worst behaved fans at Selhurst and caused lots of damage
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To those who say I should move seats I have had these seats for 15 years there are 8 of us and my daughter has my late fathers seat I should not have to move seats and I am not talking about the odd wanker sign I am talking about constant wanker and aggressiveness directly In front of the stewards.
Good on you! You have no reason to move from the seats you have had for 5 years and absolutely no reason to not bring your daughter to the Family end of a football team..

Something needs to be done, it's just a shame the away fans got moved where they did. I sat in the Whitehorse for years as a kid and loved it. Kids are the future of this club and I feel that part of football is the banter etc. I saw a lot of trouble etc when I was little but the Family end should be the one place you shouldn't feel bad about bringing your kid.

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If they cause damage again just charge em the costs next year. 100 quid a ticket for one team would prove a message. Yes they can do it back to us but 1 team with scummy fans deserve some sort of message sent to them.

Why the stewards didn't throw anyone out yesterday was scandalous. Hopefully some good cctv to get them all!
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