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Old 03-08-2016, 12:10 PM
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The leavers dismissed a recession before the vote, so why should they believe today one is going to hit anytime soon?
To be fair, its a 50-50 bet.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:11 PM
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No. Because 52% of the people who voted on June 23rd decided. It is as simple and clear-cut as that.
It's not though is it? Fortunately in this country if we vote in a government that does a bad job we get to vote them out the next time. If Brexit does not deliver what was promised during the campaign and the will of the people changes then guess what - we vote again in a plethora of different ways.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:11 PM
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Interested to know if any Leavers think the government should respond to these problems by looking at the possibility of not leaving the EU to avoid a recession?
I think many leavers accepted the possibility of a short shallow technical recession.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:13 PM
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It's not though is it? Fortunately in this country if we vote in a government that does a bad job we get to vote them out the next time. If Brexit does not deliver what was promised during the campaign and the will of the people changes then guess what - we vote again in a plethora of different ways.
Fairs fair, we'll go again in 40 years time.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:13 PM
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Right - so if an opposition party to Brexit campaigns for remain in an election this is 'without any honour'?

Yes. Makes them utter scumbags in my not so humble opinion and worthy of utter disgust, derision and scorn. Along with them needing to be willing to defend their attempt to circumvent the decision on June 23rd on the streets.

You want a Brexit deal that constrasts with mine or anybody elses, then that is absolutely fine. Campaign around that to your hearts content and best of British with that.

But any attempt to scupper us leaving the EU has to be seen as a direct attack on the democratic will of this nation and that will have consequences.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:19 PM
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Yes. Makes them utter scumbags in my not so humble opinion and worthy of utter disgust, derision and scorn. Along with them needing to be willing to defend their attempt to circumvent the decision on June 23rd on the streets.

You want a Brexit deal that constrasts with mine or anybody elses, then that is absolutely fine. Campaign around that to your hearts content and best of British with that.

But any attempt to scupper us leaving the EU has to be seen as a direct attack on the democratic will of this nation and that will have consequences.
Not if it is done democratically A party is without honour if it chooses to have a policy that represents 48% of the people. I really have heard it all.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:21 PM
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Yes. Makes them utter scumbags in my not so humble opinion and worthy of utter disgust, derision and scorn. Along with them needing to be willing to defend their attempt to circumvent the decision on June 23rd on the streets.

You want a Brexit deal that constrasts with mine or anybody elses, then that is absolutely fine. Campaign around that to your hearts content and best of British with that.

But any attempt to scupper us leaving the EU has to be seen as a direct attack on the democratic will of this nation and that will have consequences.
hahahahahahaha

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i know you've talked about these consequences before but in these dark times we could all do with a laugh so please entertain us again with what these consequences will be?
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:22 PM
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Not if it is done democratically
It has been done democratically. That is the point. The question has been asked and it has been answered. Now I appreciate that the EU seems to have this idea hat if you do not get the answer you want, then you go back and ask the question again and again until you do but that is not washing this time.

If there are not concrete assurances in place about the timing of Article 50 being triggered by January 2017 then things start to get ugly.

You want a stable UK, then push these assurances to be given. But if you want the instability to not only continue but also be ratcheted up by many many notches, then continue to try and slime your way out of it.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:24 PM
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i know you've talked about these consequences before but in these dark times we could all do with a laugh so please entertain us again with what these consequences will be?
Direct action. Violence. A massive and sustained campaign to make this country ungovernable. Full on insurrection.

Or do you think people are just going to sit back and allow themselves to be shafted over this issue?
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:26 PM
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Direct action. Violence. A massive and sustained campaign to make this country ungovernable. Full on insurrection.

Or do you think people are just going to sit back and allow themselves to be shafted over this issue?

hahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahaha

I've been ill for a few days. This comedy gold has made me feel better.

How do you picture this direct action, violence and full on insurrection happening?
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:28 PM
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Direct action. Violence. A massive and sustained campaign to make this country ungovernable. Full on insurrection.

Or do you think people are just going to sit back and allow themselves to be shafted over this issue?
All the immigrants will be on our side though, can you handle this?

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Old 03-08-2016, 12:32 PM
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All the immigrants will be on our side though, can you handle this?
Getting the immigrants to do your dirty jobs again. Sounds about right.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:38 PM
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Getting the immigrants to do your dirty jobs again. Sounds about right.
They will build the barriers and make the petrol bombs much more efficiently and cheaply than the indigenous remainers.
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Direct action. Violence. A massive and sustained campaign to make this country ungovernable. Full on insurrection.

Or do you think people are just going to sit back and allow themselves to be shafted over this issue?
My experience of the British people is that they'll sit back and take pretty much anything.

Will be surprised and possibly a little bit pleasedif you are right.
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Direct action. Violence. A massive and sustained campaign to make this country ungovernable. Full on insurrection.

Or do you think people are just going to sit back and allow themselves to be shafted over this issue?
So in the unlikely event that we have an election that overturns Brexit you will now no longer accept democracy. Is it not democracy that gives you such vigour now? I'm confused.
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That's rich.
Interesting. Why?
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The leavers dismissed a recession before the vote, so why should they believe today one is going to hit anytime soon?
Must admit that was my experience of BBS leavers.
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I think many leavers accepted the possibility of a short shallow technical recession.
Did they? When? Where?

Also, by short and shallow, what exactly do you mean? What would be unacceptable?
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So in the unlikely event that we have an election that overturns Brexit you will now no longer accept democracy. Is it not democracy that gives you such vigour now? I'm confused.
I will certainly not accept the result of any election that over-turns the Brexit victory.

If you subsequently want to campaign for another vote, or even as a matter of policy, for the UK to reapply to join the EU, then absolutely no issues around that what so ever.

But ANY attempt to scupper our departure now has to be opposed in any and every way possible.
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My experience of the British people is that they'll sit back and take pretty much anything.

Will be surprised and possibly a little bit pleasedif you are right.
and generally the people that do protest are the soclibs or whatever he likes to call them, who all voted to remain. (though of course the riots he envisages in his over active mind are below the soclibs)
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I will certainly not accept the result of any election that over-turns the Brexit victory.

If you subsequently want to campaign for another vote, or even as a matter of policy, for the UK to reapply to join the EU, then absolutely no issues around that what so ever.

But ANY attempt to scupper our departure now has to be opposed in any and every way possible.
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