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Old 11-11-2018, 12:21 AM
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What games after manure would you say are must wins ?
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Old 11-11-2018, 12:23 AM
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Any 3 plus a draw. Need 10 points.
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Old 11-11-2018, 09:44 AM
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Psychologically, assuming we lose at Man U, then a loss at home to Burnley will not be good at all. Burnley isn’t a must win game in terms of staying up, but it might do for Hodgson.
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Old 11-11-2018, 10:19 AM
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I think we need to be targeting at least 8 points from those four games. Anything less than 6 would be a failure.

The question is - if we can't win games like this, and everyone accepts that we can't beat the big teams, then who are we going to beat (considering we've already failed to beat the likes of Newcastle, Southampton, Wolves, Watford, Bournemouth etc)?

We've put ourselves under significant pressure because we've been so lax this season.
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Old 11-11-2018, 10:29 AM
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My own forecast from a while ago has:

Burnley W
Brighton D
West Ham L
Leicester W

So, 7 points. More would be a bonus. No Wilf will put a severe dent in that.
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From a perspective of Hodgson keeping his job, a minimum of 4 points from Burnley and Brighton, that is assuming that we lose to Man U.

However, though I am usually against sacking managers too soon, I think it would be justifiable to sack him now, as we have a good squad with creative players, so it is criminal that we are so toothless. He needs to sort it out ASAP.
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From a perspective of Hodgson keeping his job, a minimum of 4 points from Burnley and Brighton, that is assuming that we lose to Man U.

However, though I am usually against sacking managers too soon, I think it would be justifiable to sack him now, as we have a good squad with creative players, so it is criminal that we are so toothless. He needs to sort it out ASAP.
We dont have a good squad though. Other than Wilf and Andros we have no one that can carry the ball, we don’t have a goalscorer and other than a yet unproven Max Meyer we have no creative midfielders. For a side that has been in the Prem for 5+ years our squad is actually a bit of a joke
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I'd take 2 wins and 2 draws now, the 8 points would have us eyeing mid-table.

More probably, we'll get 5 or so points and be knee-deep in the relegation dog-fight for Xmas
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We really have to beat Burnley at home. I can't see us getting much from Leicester and West Ham can cause anyone problems.
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Hodgson's future will depend very much on those games which is fair enough in my opinion. Hopefully either way it shapes us up to get our recruitment setup in January.

Burnley and Brighton MUST be at least 4 points.
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How is Hodgeson to blame for the club buying crap and failing to have any strikers good enough ?
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We’ll huff & puff but lose 1-0 against Burnley
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Lose at home to Leicester something to nil.
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I think unfortch the rot is in and we’ll be dwindling int bott 3 by xms. It’s been coming so am really not surprised as to where we are ala mo.
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We have somehow got to be on at least 15 points by end of the year. Knowing us we will beat Leicester and West Ham but lose to Brighton and Burnley, it's the Palace way
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From a perspective of Hodgson keeping his job, a minimum of 4 points from Burnley and Brighton, that is assuming that we lose to Man U.

However, though I am usually against sacking managers too soon, I think it would be justifiable to sack him now, as we have a good squad with creative players, so it is criminal that we are so toothless. He needs to sort it out ASAP.
We only have 2 proper centre forwards at the club. One is massively out of form and injured, and the other is massively out of his depth.

Put a half decent entre forward in our squad, eg Rondon, and we’d be fine. I can’t see how this is really Hodgson’s fault.
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After our last dizzy run of games some may think "these games" will not be too much of a stretch to get the wins we must aim for, but the reality is having had what on paper was an easy start yet somehow managed to cock it up. We must now as Mr Palace says aim for 8 points, i would go for an inbetween figure of 7 points as a no brainer MUST get especially after the points previously thrown away, but this is easier said than done as the expectancy and pressure on the players to win will be enormous, and every one of those teams will be tricky games.
Somehow we must get to the New Year with a total of 18 or 20 points as a minimum if possible, and then invest in the January window.
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These four games will define the first half of our season. If we fail to win two or more we'll be starting the new year in the thick of the relegation struggle.
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They're all massively important but there is only one game that matters - Burnley.
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Ideally we’d get 9 points from our next 5 games (including Manure) and be back on points per game. Unlikely, but we don’t do likely.
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