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All this bollox about the Germans wanting to keep selling us cars.

We have to buy foreign cars there are no British cars, unless we all start driving Morgan.
Exactly. We will just find ourselves paying more for them, and of course we will fork out.
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Badly run companies go to the wall all the time , Remain voters are becoming incredibly more desperate to find bad economic news

UK shares are rocketing and the pound slowly recovering whilst several EU banks are having massive problems .

Cameron and Osborne have been replaced by more competent leaders what's not to like ?

The predicted Brexit crash just isn't happening for the remain camp
Let's see what picture emerges in say 6 months time.
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All this bollox about the Germans wanting to keep selling us cars.

We have to buy foreign cars there are no British cars, unless we all start driving Morgan.
Great opportunity for Jaguar Land Rover - both domestically and exporting.
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Great opportunity for Jaguar Land Rover - both domestically and exporting.
You mean the Indian owned car manufacturer that recently opened a plant in Slovakia? The first time the Defender has been built outside of the UK?

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Great opportunity for Jaguar Land Rover - both domestically and exporting.
They dont really do a mass market car anymore though, I looked at the new Discovery sport but its 35,000 for a mid spec and thats about the cheapest car they do.
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You mean the Indian owned car manufacturer that recently opened a plant in Slovakia? The first time the Defender has been built outside of the UK?
Quite. Meanwhile, To view the link you have to Register or Login think Brexit could cost them over a billion by the end of the decade. There go the jobs.

I rather think Dickie is talking rot.
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A deep recession on its way, job losses, and people are worrying about which posh brand new car to purchase? Might have to cut back on the leather armrests peeps.
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It won't effect the rich, it never does.

Haven't you worked that one out yet?
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Old 16-07-2016, 07:26 PM
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We import $100billion from Germany our top trading partner. We export less than half of that to them ($46.5billion). We are joint 2nd behind the USA with France.

We import $41.5 billion from france and export $27Billion.

We import $50.7 billion from Holland and export $34.2

We have a positive trade balance with the USA and Switzerland. Neither of whom are in the EU

Our second highest import partner is china. At $62.7 billion.

56% of our exports are to non EU countries which has increased from 45% in 2000. This rate is steadily increasing.

If anyone thinks that the EU nations are going to stamp their feet over negotiations when they would effectively be shooting themselves in the foot at a time when they need an increase in funds, then they are mad.

Can you honestly see Germany saying we are not going to sell you $100b of goods to you because you wont agree to freedom of movement!!! It would be madness. Especially as a high percentage of our exports are services not product.

They may make some initial noises, as they are at the moment, but in the end they will agree to watered down movement such as inter company and business needs movement. Where requests are submitted under a preapproved system.

e.g. My company (Siemens) completes a pre registration entitling them to free movement of workers inter company.
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It won't effect the rich, it never does.

Haven't you worked that one out yet?
Poor peeps dont buy new cars.
"won't effect the rich" so why are we worrying?
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A deep recession on its way, job losses, and people are worrying about which posh brand new car to purchase? Might have to cut back on the leather armrests peeps.
Could you publish your analysis of the data that brought you to this conclusion?

Or, as is more likely, this should have an 'imo' at the start of the post.

IMO. Our biggest export partner, the USA is now coming OUT of recession. This will increase our exports with them and with brexit on the horizon US companies will be more inclined to deal with us than the EU who as the Chinese say are 'very difficult to deal with'.

The UK is the biggest export market for the US within the EU and its 5th largest in the world.

They are hardly going to stop trading with us are they!

And with their economy on the up the chances of a deep recession are limited. We have been bouncing along with 1.5 -2% growth. This may slow and may even go negative for a few months (recession is defined as 3 consecutive months. But deep!
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Quite. Meanwhile, To view the link you have to Register or Login think Brexit could cost them over a billion by the end of the decade. There go the jobs.

I rather think Dickie is talking rot.
Well of course you do. It's your BBS modus operandi.

That article was pre-referendum when Project Fear and (in your case) Sneer was in full swing - and, of course, refers to a worst-case scenario according to an economist.

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You mean the Indian owned car manufacturer that recently opened a plant in Slovakia? The first time the Defender has been built outside of the UK?

Could go either way.

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They are also opening a factory in South America. It's what successful global companies do. As to their shareholder, I think you'll find most major brands have international ownership these days.
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Could you publish your analysis of the data that brought you to this conclusion?

Or, as is more likely, this should have an 'imo' at the start of the post.

IMO. Our biggest export partner, the USA is now coming OUT of recession. This will increase our exports with them and with brexit on the horizon US companies will be more inclined to deal with us than the EU who as the Chinese say are 'very difficult to deal with'.

The UK is the biggest export market for the US within the EU and its 5th largest in the world.

They are hardly going to stop trading with us are they!

And with their economy on the up the chances of a deep recession are limited. We have been bouncing along with 1.5 -2% growth. This may slow and may even go negative for a few months (recession is defined as 3 consecutive months. But deep!
I was taking the proverbial. You would like this IMO. To view the link you have to Register or Login "Here's How Much Europe Depends On The UK"
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We import $100billion from Germany our top trading partner. We export less than half of that to them ($46.5billion). We are joint 2nd behind the USA with France.

We import $41.5 billion from france and export $27Billion.

We import $50.7 billion from Holland and export $34.2

We have a positive trade balance with the USA and Switzerland. Neither of whom are in the EU

Our second highest import partner is china. At $62.7 billion.

56% of our exports are to non EU countries which has increased from 45% in 2000. This rate is steadily increasing.

If anyone thinks that the EU nations are going to stamp their feet over negotiations when they would effectively be shooting themselves in the foot at a time when they need an increase in funds, then they are mad.

Can you honestly see Germany saying we are not going to sell you $100b of goods to you because you wont agree to freedom of movement!!! It would be madness. Especially as a high percentage of our exports are services not product.

They may make some initial noises, as they are at the moment, but in the end they will agree to watered down movement such as inter company and business needs movement. Where requests are submitted under a preapproved system.

e.g. My company (Siemens) completes a pre registration entitling them to free movement of workers inter company.
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Well of course you do. It's your BBS modus operandi.
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You do realise that that line that makes absolutely no sense, other than being a stylistic ad hominem introduction?

Make your point without bitching, perhaps.

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That article was pre-referendum when Project Fear and (in your case) Sneer was in full swing - and, of course, refers to a worst-case scenario according to an economist.
Ah, I see. So now your position is that anything written before a certain date is factually invalid. Must be lovely to be able to mould the truth as you wish.
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We import $100billion from Germany our top trading partner. We export less than half of that to them ($46.5billion). We are joint 2nd behind the USA with France.

We import $41.5 billion from france and export $27Billion.

We import $50.7 billion from Holland and export $34.2

We have a positive trade balance with the USA and Switzerland. Neither of whom are in the EU

Our second highest import partner is china. At $62.7 billion.

56% of our exports are to non EU countries which has increased from 45% in 2000. This rate is steadily increasing.

If anyone thinks that the EU nations are going to stamp their feet over negotiations when they would effectively be shooting themselves in the foot at a time when they need an increase in funds, then they are mad.

Can you honestly see Germany saying we are not going to sell you $100b of goods to you because you wont agree to freedom of movement!!! It would be madness. Especially as a high percentage of our exports are services not product.

They may make some initial noises, as they are at the moment, but in the end they will agree to watered down movement such as inter company and business needs movement. Where requests are submitted under a preapproved system.

e.g. My company (Siemens) completes a pre registration entitling them to free movement of workers inter company.
Blimey, and all that happened while we were in the EU? How did we get away with that?
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