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Old 17-01-2017, 03:25 PM
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Saved me having to write that.

A player is only as good as the players around him. He is head and tails above anyone else in our midfield, but gets dragged down by them not being as intelligent on the ball as he is or seeing a free space to run into.
Which is why he was excellent at Newcastle and Lille but struggled at PSG.
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Old 17-01-2017, 03:26 PM
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The only players who show for a pass are normally next to Cabaye, or behind him. The strikers or those pushed further forward when we've got the ball are normally on their heels waiting for the punt. Puncheon has the same issue and ends up doing circles trying to hold onto possession waiting for someone, anyone to make a run so he can pass to them. Lack of movement & options ahead and these type of players lose the ball, the crowd groans, it's all their fault. But they're not being helped.

I know Swansea City at home was bad, but the movement was non existent. There was hardly any decent options in front of them. Our goal that night was from an incredible bit of skill from Zaha, but started from some movement into decent space down the right hand side which, whisper it quietly, Cabaye spotted and dropped the ball into, which led to not the best of crosses as it was behind Zaha, but his ability meant he was able to make the best of it.
The lack of movement has been an issue for quite a while. When we counter-attacked with two quick wingers, it was not much of a problem. When we 'transitioned' the lack of movement off the ball was ludicrous. I suspect it was largely down to coaching and lack of fitness.

Throw in a more open set up, and the poor quality of our full backs has been exposed due to the lack of midfield cover.
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Old 17-01-2017, 03:27 PM
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Which is why he was excellent at Newcastle and Lille but struggled at PSG.
He had two other very good international players in front of him so was used off the bench. Unlike PSG our squad is a bit shit and doesn't have quite that depth

Our managers current narrow no width tactics are not helping either. Though Andross is being crap and Wilf and Sako are unavailable. Hence I assume why he is so keen on a new LB AND RB to give us width while they are away.
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FFS Mutch and Lee should be the ones on the way out (not because Lee is a bad player he just doesn't fit what we need right now). We need to bolster the squad stripping it of the quality footballers is not the way forward. Adding water carrying players that will enthuse and drag the rest of them forward is what we need if those water carrying player happen to be very good players in their own right so much the better. IE DM and LB and by the looks of it we are attempting to sign two very impresive ones.

It's a squad game FFS people complain about the weakness of it then want to dismantle the whole thing and bring in a bunch of Championship quality tryers in. You sell Cabaye and you have to replace him in the January window when player fees are over inflated and not good value. So far 12M (9ish upfront on Schlupp, 7M on Jenkinson, and we still need two more players.......apparently 12M for Iborra and a nominal fee for Evra but high wages.
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When we are desperate to strengthen the squad, two of the main transfer rumours concern players leaving. You couldn't make it up.
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He had two other very good international players in front of him so was used off the bench. Unlike PSG our squad is a bit shit
Well done on proving Billy's post right. It's never ever his fault for a poor performance.

Is that thing about him never being in a winning team this season still true?
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The only players who show for a pass are normally next to Cabaye, or behind him. The strikers or those pushed further forward when we've got the ball are normally on their heels waiting for the punt. Puncheon has the same issue and ends up doing circles trying to hold onto possession waiting for someone, anyone to make a run so he can pass to them. Lack of movement & options ahead and these type of players lose the ball, the crowd groans, it's all their fault. But they're not being helped.

I know Swansea City at home was bad, but the movement was non existent. There was hardly any decent options in front of them. Our goal that night was from an incredible bit of skill from Zaha, but started from some movement into decent space down the right hand side which, whisper it quietly, Cabaye spotted and dropped the ball into, which led to not the best of crosses as it was behind Zaha, but his ability meant he was able to make the best of it.


The divs won't get it though.
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Quite frankly, if Benteke, Zaha, Bolasie, McArthur, Townsend, Adebayor and Punch (The players playing ahead of him since his form deteriorated with us.) arent good enough for poor old Cabaye he can **** off.
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Old 17-01-2017, 03:31 PM
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He had two other very good international players in front of him so was used off the bench. Unlike PSG our squad is a bit shit and doesn't have quite that depth
And there we have it. Never his fault.
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Well done on proving Billy's post right. It's never ever his fault for a poor performance.

Is that thing about him never being in a winning team this season still true?
Do you know it might have more to do with our piss poor FBs and Wayne being a bit shit........ The midfield can certainly do more but lets not pretend that our defence has not made error after error at set pieces. We've conceded one of the highest numbers of them in the league.
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And there we have it. Never his fault.
It's not the attack that has been shit this season is it it's the back five that are utter bollocks. I notice we are concentrating on the defensive side of the team in recruitment terms. I think we need a DM next to Cabaye but not replacing him.
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Absolutely. He is the only one who puts his foot in! There would be nothing left of our midfield.
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Shouldn't be selling him..

He is a class footballer. Our issue is we haven't built the midfield around him.. dying for a proper number 10. Initially I thought punch was the one.. he wasn't and should of been upgraded in summer
**** that, we need a proper defensive midfielder way before a No10. (Regarding No10 hopefully Siggurdsson in the summer once Swansea drop.)
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It's not the attack that has been shit this season is it it's the back five that are utter bollocks. I notice we are concentrating on the defensive side of the team in recruitment terms. I think we need a DM next to Cabaye but not replacing him.
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Because it's five years ago!

His legs have gone.
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