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Old 27-08-2017, 08:00 AM
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Some huge decisions to make in the next 4 days

I don't envy being Steve Parish at the moment. So many key questions to consider and so little time:

1. The majority owners of the club clearly have no appetite for the annual relegation dogfight (and as Pards pointed out, don't really understand football). They want a quick return on their investment, then to cut and run. How do you reconcile this with making the three or four key signings which might get our season back on track?

2. Do you back your new manager in his continuing quest to change the playing culture, when it clearly either doesn't fit with the players we have in the squad, or they are stubbornly refusing to try and adopt it? Can you buy enough round pegs for round holes in 4 days? Seems highly unlikely.

3. At what point do you have to insist that we actually have a very good first XI when they are deployed to their strengths, insist on returning to a 4-1-4-1 or 4-2-3-1 with wide men and service for Benteke, and buy some decent back up in positions where there is little depth?

4. Do you play the long game, let the Americans asset strip and manage an orderly relegation, relying on Dougie Freedman's talent for identifying value in the Football League ?

5. Do you seek to sell on to a completely new foreign owner because you've poured your life and soul in to the last 7 years and could do without the thankless hassle and aggravation?


This is now a very high stakes game of stick or twist, which could have far reaching consequences for Crystal Palace. Only time will tell if decisions made over the next few days were good ones.
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Old 27-08-2017, 08:04 AM
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One thing you don't do is "prepare for the championship". Teams are going down and staying down. Look at Villa who are a much bigger club than us. I'm not suggesting a shit or bust approach by spending big but what we could bloody do is go back to basics and play a style and formation suited to our players.
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Old 27-08-2017, 08:23 AM
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You might add what quality player will join a relegation club?
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Easy, sell all players that we can, pay off any debt, bank the money and earn some interest, get 11 of the youth team (or anyone we cannot get rid of - which may be a lot of the current team) and walk out with a big flag every game with '**** the premier league - get it right up ye!!' Written on it and then go back to the dressing room! Job done & all sorted! Start again in the championship next year!
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Feckless mercenaries who won't give a monkey's if we go down. Looking for a last payday.
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Easy, sell all players that we can, pay off any debt, bank the money and earn some interest, get 11 of the youth team (or anyone we cannot get rid of - which may be a lot of the current team) and walk out with a big flag every game with '**** the premier league - get it right up ye!!' Written on it and then go back to the dressing room! Job done & all sorted! Start again in the championship next year!
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Fair point. How long do you go on throwing good money about on 50k a week, 4 year contracts for mediocre players when you'll be on the hook for them if we go down. Agents just don't accept a reduction in pay as a result of relegation any more, and they know we are desperate.
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Sell Townsend for 15 million, loan in Skorupski, buy William Carvalho and Mama and get the young French striker from Le Havre. Most of these deals are structured these days, use our January contingency now and get this quality in ...
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Sell Townsend for 15M well thankfully he will not be sold at that price which would be madness
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Sell Townsend for 15 million, loan in Skorupski, buy William Carvalho and Mama and get the young French striker from Le Havre. Most of these deals are structured these days, use our January contingency now and get this quality in ...
I thought two loans was the maximum?
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Do you believe the 27 million figure that Leicester want to pay ? No way we get more than 15 million
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This is what happens when you leave it too late.
We need a minimum of 4 players as it stands, but outgoing players will need replacing as well.
Won't happen.
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I think we could argue that Cabaye has already been replaced by Loftus-Cheek, so I can reluctantly understand that sale. He has 1 year left, is 31(?) and on big wages.

But if Townsend goes, then he certainly needs to be replaced - Ward as our first choice right midfielder is a scary thought.

We still haven't replaced a keeper we sold about a month ago (longer?). I don't think we should have sold without a replacement lined up.

Then there is the blindingly obvious striker problem (back-up for Benteke)

And we undoubtedly need someone to play in the first team alongside Wilf and Benteke. If that is going to be Loftus-Cheek, then we DO need to replace Cabaye after all.
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We need a minimum of 4 players as it stands, but outgoing players will need replacing as well.
Won't happen.


Yep 4 days to sort out this shambles. Ridiculous management from the top
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As posted elsewhere I think the fundamental problem underpinning our 5 year struggle is that even now we haven't reached the tipping point for Premier quality players in the matchday squad.

The constant managerial changes, ageing players (moving past their peak) and a lack of a long term plan for squad strength/quality/ages because of sticking plaster signings. The annual fight against relegation has made short term decisions a way of life for the club.

We have dodged relegation with a 'Championship Cup-like' run on each occasion. The problem with that is that at some point you simply can't replicate that and we are running out of crap teams to complete with to ensure we beat 3.

Unless we are backed by some uber rich owners who agree to handle FPP then we are in a corner we can't get out of, which is why the big clubs all 'support FPP'. You get one shot at it at promotion time and frankly we screwed that up big time (understandably) and have been tussling with that ever since. The only other way out I can see is to shift our big cost, fee players and buy younger quality at astute prices. Our business so far is the sort of pattern but obviously purchases not loans.

So that may mean radical surgery and Benteke, Cabaye and Townsend would be casualties plus as many fringe, older players than we can jettison. But we need to have lined up the replacements beforehand or prices will soar yet again.
It is a bit like Football Manager roulette.

But expecting the current squad to survive, even if Sakho was added is kidding ourselves. I wouldn't choose to lose any of them, especially Cabaye. I get the feeling that Benteke is ticking over so far this season and maybe he knows this is the plan and deals are agreed somewhere.
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