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Old 27-08-2017, 02:50 PM
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I honestly think we won't sign anyone!
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He hasnt been backed properly in the window and that is the fault of the chairman
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Old 27-08-2017, 03:17 PM
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Once again another season has started and we look like one of, if not the, least prepared squads in the league and are deservedly in the bottom three.

This same shit has been going on for the past few seasons and nothing changes, I don't really see how any manager is going to make a difference if we can't even strengthen our squad that has been needing it for over 2 years now. It's pathetic, I can appreciate it isn't easy but when you see clubs like Huddersfield doing good business over the summer for not large amounts of money, it really does make you question what the hell is going on at the club.

I can't see this cycle being broken for a while.
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Well if we don't, it may be that The Board have decided we cannot afford to remain in the Premier League at this rate of expenditure. Ordinary players are costing 10m. The moderately better are 25m. The exceptional are out of range. Even players from the Championship now come with a premium if a Premier League club comes in.

It all seems very odd that the Club stated that Pardew was replaced by Allardyce because the changes to the playing style were a mistake and it would be back to tried and tested. Yet Palace have hired an exponent of 'total football' without having the players to use it and so far the only reinforcements provided to FdB are inexperienced youngsters. This is further problematic merging with new team mates who allegedly were responsible in Pardew's departure and rejecting a style of play similar to what is being imposed.

Then again maybe the Board have gone to the wire and the obvious back up for Benteke, GK and other key positions will be filled in the next few days.
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Old 27-08-2017, 04:07 PM
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Well if we don't, it may be that The Board have decided we cannot afford to remain in the Premier League at this rate of expenditure. Ordinary players are costing 10m. The moderately better are 25m. The exceptional are out of range. Even players from the Championship now come with a premium if a Premier League club comes in.

It all seems very odd that the Club stated that Pardew was replaced by Allardyce because the changes to the playing style were a mistake and it would be back to tried and tested. Yet Palace have hired an exponent of 'total football' without having the players to use it and so far the only reinforcements provided to FdB are inexperienced youngsters. This is further problematic merging with new team mates who allegedly were responsible in Pardew's departure and rejecting a style of play similar to what is being imposed.

Then again maybe the Board have gone to the wire and the obvious back up for Benteke, GK and other key positions will be filled in the next few days.
If they had decided that then they would sell now before there was any risk of relegation. Relegation means their asset depreciates dramatically.
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Yep 4 days to sort out this shambles. Ridiculous management from the top
The whole thing is a complete ******* mess and it all stems from those at the top.
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Once again another season has started and we look like one of, if not the, least prepared squads in the league and are deservedly in the bottom three.

This same shit has been going on for the past few seasons and nothing changes, I don't really see how any manager is going to make a difference if we can't even strengthen our squad that has been needing it for over 2 years now. It's pathetic, I can appreciate it isn't easy but when you see clubs like Huddersfield doing good business over the summer for not large amounts of money, it really does make you question what the hell is going on at the club.

I can't see this cycle being broken for a while.
Indeed. We're reaping what we has been sown.

To have squandered the chance to invest and consolidate this season (after the shambles of 2016/17) is unforgiveable and ******* idiotic.
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Old 27-08-2017, 05:12 PM
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Well if we don't, it may be that The Board have decided we cannot afford to remain in the Premier League at this rate of expenditure. Ordinary players are costing 10m. The moderately better are 25m. The exceptional are out of range. Even players from the Championship now come with a premium if a Premier League club comes in.
I agree with what you say further down but don't get this bit sorry. We were losing money hand over foot in the championship. A debt that was being paid for by the owners. Was it something like 5m a season.

By being in the premier league I'm not aware we've made a loss and puts us in a position to be able to service any debt with the guaranteed income which wasn't available in the championship. If we can't service the debt given the guaranteed incomes each season then we are being miss managed at board level on a similar basis to Goldberg and Jordan****** note that at this stage I'm not saying we are and refuse to believe we are in financial difficulties. I mean how the hell can we.
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I just can't see how anyone would want to sign for us after this shambolic start, it feels like we've left it too late to do our business again, which for me has been a common theme throughout our time in this league.
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Maybe they've tried and nobody is interested.
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some massive decisions to take in the next few days and decisions they've known about for months or even a couple of years.

if our owners want to stay up then have a chat with Mr D B, if they want us to go down then continue as we are, but use these days wisely chaps as they will be defining in our clubs future and history. The dark days of admin and lloyds bank, Kevin's Wembley penalty and Crystanbul will have a new addition with 'remember the shit times under De Boer and the boards inability to back/ sack him?'


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Indeed. We're reaping what we has been sown.

To have squandered the chance to invest and consolidate this season (after the shambles of 2016/17) is unforgiveable and ******* idiotic.
TBF the last two words there could describe everyone in charge of this club right now.
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Sack De Boer, bring in Steve Coppell to work with Sammy Lee, and hunker down for a long, but at least united season.
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Then they should sell up and give it to others who will invest ,quite alot of us i are getting sick and tired of this club making excuse after excuse and not admitting someone screwed up when it goes tits up us fans pay good money to expect to watch the team play well especially at home and walk away after the game feeling more prouder then we did entering the ground but seeing poor displays game after game and hearing this ,that and the other through media circa is annoying to say the least.

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Parish and Freedman MUST sit down with FdB today and explain that things are not working and the decision time is now. They've had all fecking summer to find the right players and implement a new formation and nothing has been done. They only things we've got in are kids and a quick look at our bench shows there is nothing to support the First XI.


What manager chooses his formation before he knows his team? Sam and Pulis played to our strengths and it worked. That type of football is our strength with the players we have now and if the style is to change it must come gradually.
Pards tried and failed because the players didn't suit the system. De Boer will fail for the same reason.

I know it's not the thing that normally happens but now that Freedman has been appointed as sporting director I suppose it is his job to tell FdB that the tactics must be altered to fit the players. If he refuses to change then good riddance. The interests if the Club are greater than the interests of one or two people.
I can't believe Sammy Lee has not had some input as to our best style of play. Maybe no-one is listening.
Could it be that the apointment of Dougie has more that one purpose.
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I agree with what you say further down but don't get this bit sorry. We were losing money hand over foot in the championship. A debt that was being paid for by the owners. Was it something like 5m a season.

By being in the premier league I'm not aware we've made a loss and puts us in a position to be able to service any debt with the guaranteed income which wasn't available in the championship. If we can't service the debt given the guaranteed incomes each season then we are being miss managed at board level on a similar basis to Goldberg and Jordan****** note that at this stage I'm not saying we are and refuse to believe we are in financial difficulties. I mean how the hell can we.
I understand the point and it's a similar view taken by Martin H. I am grateful to both of you for reading my post and commenting.

As I understand it too, CPFC2010 were covering the losses whilst we were in the Championship until the riches came with promotion. Since then Palace have fought tooth and nail to cling on in the Premier League.

Now I obviously do not have any knowledge of the Club's finances but we are often told they are very tightly managed and even though added investment came in, there will be no hard and fast risks taken with the Club's future and risking another administration.

However, from some reports, Parish was not in agreement with the record breaking Benteke deal, fearing it too excessive but was overruled. That came on top of some expensive deals as well as another expensive record breaker, prior to Benteke, with Cabaye.

Last January, the Club seemed to move Heaven and Earth to accede to Allardyce to spend big in a gamble to stay up and it succeeded.

During all this time, it is beyond argument that the costs of running Palace over the last 4 years have increased considerably and so too have the rewards. However it's a bit like looking at inflation and income in family budgets. Some family budgets can ride for longer with a shortfall between expenditure and income. Now perhaps for a small club like Palace in this league, the squeeze is beginning to hurt.

Whilst Palace fill the ground every week, the pressure to increase income generation might be floundering and causing frustration. That really might be it in a nutshell.

Comparisons might be made with a 'smaller' club like say Bourmemouth but I guess many of us, other than the financial boffins on the BBS, know little about that club's financial backing.

Now I take the point, why would the owners of any organisation hold back on investment and see the value of it depreciate? I have no idea but I suspect for some business reasons it just might happen.

It's just meandering thought really and I am a conspiracy theorist. Everything has some devious plan. Perhaps some in the know financial people might be able to scotch my rubbish thoughts.
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Sell Townsend for 15 million, loan in Skorupski, buy William Carvalho and Mama and get the young French striker from Le Havre. Most of these deals are structured these days, use our January contingency now and get this quality in ...
Jeez, after watching that garbage yesterday, if we sell Townsend and Cabaye (the only 2 players who gave us any hope against Swansea), I will throw my ST on the bonfire.
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If we don't strengthen the squad by the end of Thursday I can see FdB walking out using the excuse that the board failed to back his plan and he's not been given the resources he was promised. If he's finding this a harder job than he imagined it's a good excuse to bail out blaming someone else whilst not ruining his reputation.
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