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Old 31-08-2017, 04:04 PM
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Really if you look at what FdB has done to the team currently I'd suspect means he's not done his research on JW. If it's a fitness issue then fair enough and in that case Parish is an idiot for giving him a contract but his talent can't be questioned imo.
I suspect it's a combination of lack of match fitness (hence the U23 matches) and uncertainty about his best position. In a 3-4-3 he would have to displace/cover one of Cabaye, Puncheon or RLC which is unlikely to happen without a run of games, or maybe take a wide role. Not sure what formation Grayson plays but hopefully, as well as fitness, he'll find a settled position.
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Really if you look at what FdB has done to the team currently I'd suspect means he's not done his research on JW. If it's a fitness issue then fair enough and in that case Parish is an idiot for giving him a contract but his talent can't be questioned imo.
There's nothing whatsoever to suggest that he has the talent to play in the Premier league; he's yet to make more than a handful of cameos at this level. He had a couple of good games at the Euros, but aside from those and a handful of impressive performances for us 5-6 years ago he's not achieved anything of note. Even if he could stay fit, there's no evidence to suggest that he'd be good enough to play for Palace.

All this is very unfortunate of course but he won't play for us, and probably won't ever play in the premier league.
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you'll get negged for speaking the truth. Nice guy, but JW desperately needs this move for the good of his career. Wish him well.
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Based on what exactly? He has never been given a chance to prove himself.
What I saw of him he was not as good as puncheon. And I think Puncheon should be dropped
Don't say they are different types of player. Both hold on to ball too long and give the ball away a lot.
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Should free up some wages........

But more importantly should free up the physio.
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ah the urban myth, little Johnny wasn't given a chance to prove himself at palace. Never gets old.
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Good practice for him. I strongly expect we'll be in Sunderland's position this time in 2018.
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Old 31-08-2017, 04:37 PM
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you'll get negged for speaking the truth. Nice guy, but JW desperately needs this move for the good of his career. Wish him well.
Give it by November and he's injured again and back to flogging rio Ferdinand snap backs on social media .

It's actually a good move, Sunderland are a big club and amazed an EPL minor club has taken him on.

This move is make or break.
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According to Sky he's at the Sunderland training ground.

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Give it by November and he's injured again and back to flogging rio Ferdinand snap backs on social media .



It's actually a good move, Sunderland are a big club and amazed an EPL minor club has taken him on.



This move is make or break.

An EPL minor club? As opposed to us?
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Give it by November and he's injured again and back to flogging rio Ferdinand snap backs on social media .

It's actually a good move, Sunderland are a big club and amazed an EPL minor club has taken him on.

This move is make or break.
You mean break literally right?
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Ethiopian Premier League?
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Give it by November and he's injured again and back to flogging rio Ferdinand snap backs on social media .

It's actually a good move, Sunderland are a big club and amazed an EPL minor club has taken him on.

This move is make or break.
Now now C block. Very harsh. I think he has bundles of talent, but can he keep fit? I agree it is a good move all round. And it is make or break (probably literally in poor old Jonny's case)
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There's nothing whatsoever to suggest that he has the talent to play in the Premier league; he's yet to make more than a handful of cameos at this level. He had a couple of good games at the Euros, but aside from those and a handful of impressive performances for us 5-6 years ago he's not achieved anything of note. Even if he could stay fit, there's no evidence to suggest that he'd be good enough to play for Palace.

All this is very unfortunate of course but he won't play for us, and probably won't ever play in the premier league.
Of course he's good enough and proved it on the international stage which is imo comparable to the PL. All about opinions I get and respect that ( apart from the horse who is trolling). I think he'd be an asset to FdB if given the chance but that'll have to be next season now if both have a fair bit of luck
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I love Jonny just like everyone does. But if we're totally brutally relentlessly honest- it's not going to happen for him. It's heartbreaking cos he's a seemingly great bloke and genuinely very very talented. I would love to see him take a permanent transfer and prove me wrong. Either way, an umpteenth loan is no good for him.
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Of course he's good enough and proved it on the international stage which is imo comparable to the PL. All about opinions I get and respect that ( apart from the horse who is trolling). I think he'd be an asset to FdB if given the chance but that'll have to be next season now if both have a fair bit of luck
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What box? I'm talking about having seen him play live and following his international career.
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