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Old 14-08-2014, 11:01 AM
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Old 14-08-2014, 11:05 AM
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you all miss the weeds?

Are all your warnings and predictions on overspending coming home to roost, i guess you'd love them to? It's still a little to early to tell for sure, but, being upfront and genuine, the signs are not good at all..... everything points today to the club having financial issues.

The last manager did one, as he felt the club weakened not strengthened in january, and now rumours abound that Hypia may have offered his resignation.... the FACTS (this is your cue Old Git!), are that we've sold a fair few players for a good few millions, Bridcutt, Barnes, Ulloa and Buckley plus removed other higher earners off the wages and in return we've got pretty much nothing except Stockdale and an ex barnsley forward.

4 seasons on and the promised transport system is still nowhere near finished..... but the big issue is whats really going on behind the scenes. maybe monkeyboy Poyet was right.

These are not the actions of a club harbouring genuine ambitions towards the PL. Something behind the scenes is very wrong, just about every player we want that is wanted by another club, like Adam Clayton ends up not coming to Brighton..... All the While ST prices are up, matchday food/drinks is going up and we're getting the old FFP bullshit as the reason. Nobody really believes it.

Is Bloom personally skint? who knows. Did he pay for the club with his money or did he leverage himself up to the eyeballs? who knows..... But the club is selling its silver and replacing it with tin or nothing at all..... when all is said and done, its about the team on the pitch and the success or failure that brings, as it stands I'm worried for where its going, no doubt if the team is not improved quickly, the plastics will once again disappear and the real fans (about 6000 according to you!!), will be left.

category one acadamy status is all good and well for the 2020 season, but this season it means nothing

Right now we need the truth, not corporate flannel, the truth.... if we're skint, so be it, as the wise among you have said, it is better to accept a lower league standing within your means than to do a Pompey...... But be upfront, everything price related is going up in cost, theyre still promising a competitve team and they have one of the biggest matchday revenues in ST sales of any Championship club, but still the best players are sold and not replaced and on last weekends performance we're going to struggle. Alarm bells are ringing......
A lot of questions could be answered if someone could get a breakdown of the Admin & Operational costs. ie how fixed are they ?
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you all miss the weeds?

Are all your warnings and predictions on overspending coming home to roost, i guess you'd love them to? It's still a little to early to tell for sure, but, being upfront and genuine, the signs are not good at all..... everything points today to the club having financial issues.

The last manager did one, as he felt the club weakened not strengthened in january, and now rumours abound that Hypia may have offered his resignation.... the FACTS (this is your cue Old Git!), are that we've sold a fair few players for a good few millions, Bridcutt, Barnes, Ulloa and Buckley plus removed other higher earners off the wages and in return we've got pretty much nothing except Stockdale and an ex barnsley forward.

4 seasons on and the promised transport system is still nowhere near finished..... but the big issue is whats really going on behind the scenes. maybe monkeyboy Poyet was right.

These are not the actions of a club harbouring genuine ambitions towards the PL. Something behind the scenes is very wrong, just about every player we want that is wanted by another club, like Adam Clayton ends up not coming to Brighton..... All the While ST prices are up, matchday food/drinks is going up and we're getting the old FFP bullshit as the reason. Nobody really believes it.

Is Bloom personally skint? who knows. Did he pay for the club with his money or did he leverage himself up to the eyeballs? who knows..... But the club is selling its silver and replacing it with tin or nothing at all..... when all is said and done, its about the team on the pitch and the success or failure that brings, as it stands I'm worried for where its going, no doubt if the team is not improved quickly, the plastics will once again disappear and the real fans (about 6000 according to you!!), will be left.

category one acadamy status is all good and well for the 2020 season, but this season it means nothing

Right now we need the truth, not corporate flannel, the truth.... if we're skint, so be it, as the wise among you have said, it is better to accept a lower league standing within your means than to do a Pompey...... But be upfront, everything price related is going up in cost, theyre still promising a competitve team and they have one of the biggest matchday revenues in ST sales of any Championship club, but still the best players are sold and not replaced and on last weekends performance we're going to struggle. Alarm bells are ringing......
Wow a sensible post from a Brighton fan, on here, that's a first......well done WHP. !
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Old 14-08-2014, 11:12 AM
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Wow a sensible post from a Brighton fan, on here, that's a first......well done WHP. !
Actually have to agree there, well put WHP.
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Old 14-08-2014, 11:44 AM
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yep - well done WHP.

Would be good if others closer to the nos could give some info on why people shouldn't be worried. In particular the Amin & Op costs that no one knows anything about
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Old 14-08-2014, 11:46 AM
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Changing tack a bit, but did it ever come out why he was sacked and who did the dump and whether it was all related? It seemed incredible not to be, but that was the official line.
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Changing tack a bit, but did it ever come out why he was sacked and who did the dump and whether it was all related? It seemed incredible not to be, but that was the official line.
nothing in the accounts
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Old 14-08-2014, 12:09 PM
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Good and interesting post WHP. It'd be interesting to hear the views on those in that thread that stopped reading after 30 seconds and or discarded it all as rubbish. They obviously have the key to the information that would put an end to our discussions
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That is of course if you accept that the stadium cost 120 million.

That figure has never been confirmed and many have suggested that the true cost of the Stadium is significantly less than that. It would be a handy trick to claim the Stadium cost more than it did, charge a level of inflated rent to recoup this figure, whilst at the same time claiming you weren't charging interest. You wouldn't need to.

VHA called this economic model "BLOOMFLATION".
There are rumours that my university actually owns the stadium. It is uni land after all...
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Old 14-08-2014, 01:39 PM
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you all miss the weeds?

Are all your warnings and predictions on overspending coming home to roost, i guess you'd love them to? It's still a little to early to tell for sure, but, being upfront and genuine, the signs are not good at all..... everything points today to the club having financial issues.

The last manager did one, as he felt the club weakened not strengthened in january, and now rumours abound that Hypia may have offered his resignation.... the FACTS (this is your cue Old Git!), are that we've sold a fair few players for a good few millions, Bridcutt, Barnes, Ulloa and Buckley plus removed other higher earners off the wages and in return we've got pretty much nothing except Stockdale and an ex barnsley forward.

4 seasons on and the promised transport system is still nowhere near finished..... but the big issue is whats really going on behind the scenes. maybe monkeyboy Poyet was right.

These are not the actions of a club harbouring genuine ambitions towards the PL. Something behind the scenes is very wrong, just about every player we want that is wanted by another club, like Adam Clayton ends up not coming to Brighton..... All the While ST prices are up, matchday food/drinks is going up and we're getting the old FFP bullshit as the reason. Nobody really believes it.

Is Bloom personally skint? who knows. Did he pay for the club with his money or did he leverage himself up to the eyeballs? who knows..... But the club is selling its silver and replacing it with tin or nothing at all..... when all is said and done, its about the team on the pitch and the success or failure that brings, as it stands I'm worried for where its going, no doubt if the team is not improved quickly, the plastics will once again disappear and the real fans (about 6000 according to you!!), will be left.

category one acadamy status is all good and well for the 2020 season, but this season it means nothing

Right now we need the truth, not corporate flannel, the truth.... if we're skint, so be it, as the wise among you have said, it is better to accept a lower league standing within your means than to do a Pompey...... But be upfront, everything price related is going up in cost, theyre still promising a competitve team and they have one of the biggest matchday revenues in ST sales of any Championship club, but still the best players are sold and not replaced and on last weekends performance we're going to struggle. Alarm bells are ringing......
Big up to you for this post. I, like many on here can't stand your club, hate it, detest it. No way would I want you to go through the same hell we did with admin. Whats the point of hating something, that does not exist. Plus, I love taking the piss, when back in Burwash.
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Looks like NSC picked up the baton but are equally in the dark around the finances of their lord and master:

To view the link you have to Register or Login

Never mind though, blind faith will see them through....

PS I note the point about Directorships, but even then a Director doesn't mean you have 100% of the business of any of those companies
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There are rumours that my university actually owns the stadium. It is uni land after all...
If you read the planning documents the land the stadium was built on, was owned by Brighton Council and was at the time leased to the farmer I believe.
This land in the application was earmarked by the council for development and at one stage the rumour was that it was to be the site for a possible new hospital for the town.
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Old 30-08-2014, 10:38 AM
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I know I keep harping on about it but the main question should be how fixed are the Admin & Op costs ie if they cannot be reduced substantially Brighton are going bust at some point unless they get promoted or Bloom can underwrite >8m losses permanently

Look at my summary at the start of this thread and do the maths. Very happy to be proved wrong since for all our laughter I wouldn't wish admin on any club
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I know I keep harping on about it but the main question should be how fixed are the Admin & Op costs ie if they cannot be reduced substantially Brighton are going bust at some point unless they get promoted or Bloom can underwrite >8m losses permanently

Look at my summary at the start of this thread and do the maths. Very happy to be proved wrong since for all our laughter I wouldn't wish admin on any club
Bloom is a billionaire don't you know.The well informed on NSC say so.
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I know I keep harping on about it but the main question should be how fixed are the Admin & Op costs
1. Yes you do
2. Haven't you worked it out by now
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Nope. No info on these or Blooms wealth
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He has spent upwards of 150 million on the Albion, so he must be worth a few quid.
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He has spent upwards of 150 million on the Albion, so he must have borrowed a few quid.
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