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By the way, how did the "family club" deal with Hodgeys .05?
By sweeping it under the carpet.
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Old 08-05-2016, 02:16 AM
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He was a bit unlucky to be fair (if his story of laying off the ales early is true), eating all that "Light and Easy" obviously didn't soak up enough alcohol from his system.
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Troy Pinnell is the new Razor Ray.
His personal free kick count in the Bulldogs v Crows game was 17-1

That idiot that penalised Hickey for using his body in the ruck duel gifted North the game.
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:50 AM
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That idiot that penalised Hickey for using his body in the ruck duel gifted North the game.
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Law 15.4.5 (f) A Field Umpire shall award a free kick against a player who makes prohibited contact with an opposition player by unduly pushing, bumping, holding or blocking whilst contesting a bounce, throw up or boundary throw in.

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Straight arm block preventing opponent contesting the ball
Early leap making contact with opponent, then lands on ground and hits the football
Crosses the centre circle line going past the flight of the football then makes contact with opponent
Makes contact with opponent whilst not watching the football
Obvious push, bump, block or hold
Crosses the centre circle line before ball is bounced or thrown up
Straight leg or foot - block

Former AFL Grand Final Umpire Shaun Ryan offers his advice on how to adjudicate ruck contests.

When we talk about ruck contests the primary thing that we need to have in the forefront of our mind is that the ruckman who wants to contests the ball shall be given every opportunity to do so. So really, from an umpire’s point of view, if you bring it back to the bare basics you should be looking out for the ruckman who is trying to prohibit the other ruckman from contesting the ball.

Dumb from Hickey.
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:51 AM
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The Crows should concentrate on getting to the footy first and working on their tackling techniques, especially Scott Thompson, instead of whining about the umpires.
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Straight arm block preventing opponent contesting the ball
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Obvious push, bump, block or hold
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None of these situations occurred.
Held his ground and positioned his body between Goldstein and the ball.
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Old 08-05-2016, 11:32 AM
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The Crows should concentrate on getting to the footy first and working on their tackling techniques, especially Scott Thompson, instead of whining about the umpires.
17-1 to the hometown team?
Goes a bit further than 3 high tackles on a pack of hobbits,
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Old 08-05-2016, 11:36 AM
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He put his arm out across Goldstein's leading leg to thwart Goldstein's jump at the footy, went past the position of the "ball up" to get in that position (see red line below) and didn't have his eyes on the ball when he initially makes contact with Goldstein.

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17-1 to the hometown team?
Goes a bit further than 3 high tackles on a pack of hobbits,
I watched most of the game and the umpiring wasn't very noticeable, people only started getting worked up when the stat was pointed out by the broadcasters. One big miss was a headlock on Hardigan which went unnoticed (could have been positioning) and led to a goal. Thought a lot of Crows were sloppy with their tackling while Footscray were spot on with their techniques. Something the Crows need to work on.

The worst and most influential decision of the night was the Adcock deliberate out of bounds when Eddie Betts was the last player to touch the footy, led directly to a Crows goal with about 7-8 minutes to go.

Sauce Jacobs giving away the dumb 50 metre penalty near the end wasn't too clever from a veteran of the club.
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The hickey one is a free kick to the absolute letter of the law I'll grant that. But if you pay that then seriously there should be no body contact from above the waist from a ruckman at any stoppage.
I don't care who wins or loses but the interpretation of the rules at present is very ordinary. The more they **** with the rules, the harder it is to umpire. Basic rules should apply to umpiring. If your not 100% sure, don't pay it. The adcock one was disgraceful, same as mc Donald last week. Hickey one is very rough, Harvey got a cheap one tonight. Tis a worrying trend at present.
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The hickey one is a free kick to the absolute letter of the law I'll grant that. But if you pay that then seriously there should be no body contact from above the waist from a ruckman at any stoppage.
Not really. Eyes on the ball, don't stop your opponent from contesting the footy by grabbing and/or going past the position of the ball up/bounce. That's a block.

If you do that you can make all the contact you want other than obvious pushes or a Ty Vickery roundhouse.
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Yep I get all that Oz.
My inference is he was in position first (1 metre) rule, so therefore he should be able to protect the space within a metre of the ball drop. He didn't charge Goldstein or bodycheck really, it was a stiff arm and he should be allowed to protect the space he is given by the 1 metre rule. Ruck freekicks are the worst to get a handle on and nobody knows 75/80% of the time which way they're going. The advantage rule from a ruck free kick is also a massive blight on the game.
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My inference is he was in position first (1 metre) rule, so therefore he should be able to protect the space within a metre of the ball drop. He didn't charge Goldstein or bodycheck really, it was a stiff arm and he should be allowed to protect the space he is given by the 1 metre rule.
Quite sure that's not a rule.

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Agreed.
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It's not a rule I know, but he should be allowed to protect his space with an arm. Marking contest your allowed, why not ruck contest.
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Well said Ozda, I wouldn't have paid it but the free kick was there.

Strange game, we controlled the match like we did against the dogs without kicking away on the scoreboard and st kilda looked out on their feet halfway through the last quarter. Then north thought the job was done and the saints went bang. Riewoldt was everywhere, been a long time since I've seen a bloke single handedly drag his side through a game like that.

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