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Assange has lost his fight against extradition to Sweden to face sexual assualt although he plans to appeal against the ruling.

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Ironically, he'll be far better off in Sweden if he wants to avoid American jurisdiction apparently.

The US are desperately looking for something to charge him with and it will be far more difficult for them to secure extradition once he's in Stockholm. Britain has a ridiculously compliant extradition arrangement with America. I think it only takes Theresa May's signature on a piece of paper, whereas it would have to go through the Swedish courts with no guarantee of success.
I think you've hit the nail on the head here, they would have to show that Assange put Manning up to it to prove espionage. Its clear Manning did it off his own back. If there was a viable case against Assange they'd have acted already.
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Assange may be a free man but Bradley Manning, thought to be the man who leaked the docs to Wikileaks, is being punished despite not being found guilty of any crime. He's been kept in solitary confinement for 6 months and not even being allowed to exercise in his own cell. This is justice USA style.

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I haven't seen much news on Manning but I suspect he's in solitary for his own protection rather than as a special punishment.
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Assange has lost his fight against extradition to Sweden to face sexual assualt although he plans to appeal against the ruling.

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Applied for asylum to Ecuador. Clearly a good deal of due diligence done on relevant extradition laws...
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So Ecuador's president has confirmed that the country will grant Assange asylum but considering that he will be arrested the moment he steps out of the embassy it seems little more than symbolic gesture. Unless embassy officials are planning on sneaking him out in the dirty laundry basket...
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So Ecuador's president has confirmed that the country will grant Assange asylum but considering that he will be arrested the moment he steps out of the embassy it seems little more than symbolic gesture. Unless embassy officials are planning on sneaking him out in the dirty laundry basket...
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I get the feeling that the Ecuadorian claims that the British have threatened to storm the embassy is purely to try and create some sort of unified political pressure to allow them to get Assange out of the country. I can't see it working.
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Does anyone know anything about the crime he is being charged with?

Is he that sure he cannot just go back to Swedejn and defend himself and get off? Or do we think there is truth in it?

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messy case and looks like the UK is trying to assist the US more than obeying the letter of international law.
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messy case and looks like the UK is trying to assist the US more than obeying the letter of international law.
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Does anyone know anything about the crime he is being charged with?

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"In 2010, two female ex-Wikileaks volunteers accused Mr Assange, an Australian citizen, of committing sexual offences against them while he was in Stockholm to give a lecture.

Mr Assange claims the sex was consensual and the allegations are politically motivated."
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Equador has offered to allow the Swedish investtigators into their London Embassy to interview Assange there and the Swedes rejected the offer.
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It's entirely possible the allegations against Assange are legitimate, and I would not seek to discredit the women involved.

However if the Swedish authorities would simply guarantee he would not be extradited to the US for completely unrelated charges then Assange wouldn't have a leg to stand on by refusing to stand trial in Sweden. The fact they have not, and have refused repeated requests by Assange to be interviewed in the UK or Australia makes one wonder if he is right.
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Essentially he slept with 2 women that either worked for wikileaks or had helped arrange his visit. They accept that it was broadly consensual but that all parties were extremely drunk and in both cases he point-bank refused to wear a condom and was extremely pushy. In the sober light of day, they requested that he take an HIV test to put their minds at rest which he refused to do which no doubt raised their concerns considerably to the extent that they decided to persue avenues to force him to do so. To that end, they gave a statement to police, not alleging any specific crime, however the police forwarded the statements to the public prosecutor (or whatever they have in Sweden) who decided to press charges.

He could have ended it at a long time ago and no doubt put these women through hell until enough time had passed to test themselves. Frankly he comes across as a nasty piece of work. His fantasies about abduction to US are the paranoid whining of a coward. He should just man up; he's at far greater risk of extradition in London than he would be in Stockholm. Surely that's obvious.
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Essentially he slept with 2 women that either worked for wikileaks or had helped arrange his visit. They accept that it was broadly consensual but that all parties were extremely drunk and in both cases he point-bank refused to wear a condom and was extremely pushy.
It's actually somewhat worse than that - one women alleged that she woke up to find him having sex with her, without consent - the other claimed she agreed only to have sex with him if he wore a condom but he didn't.

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His fantasies about abduction to US are the paranoid whining of a coward. He should just man up; he's at far greater risk of extradition in London than he would be in Stockholm. Surely that's obvious.
'Temporary Surrender' - whereby he can be immediately extradited to the US with no court hearing or appeals - applies in Sweden but not the UK. Thank god, otherwise Gary McKinnon would be banged up right about now.
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