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Old 24-08-2009, 09:08 PM
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You know this is what f***s me off about clubs like Spurs signing the future of clubs like ours from underneath us for a pittance.

If they got them to blood in and sell them for a fortune I could understand it... but honestly did they ever concievably think they would play him in the next 10 years?!?! Obviously not. Just what was the point?
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You know this is what f***s me off about clubs like Spurs signing the future of clubs like ours from underneath us for a pittance.

If they got them to blood in and sell them for a fortune I could understand it... but honestly did they ever concievably think they would play him in the next 10 years?!?! Obviously not. Just what was the point?
Cheap long term financial prospect via unrealistic tribunal.
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Regardless of the rights and wrongs of Bostock's move to Spurs, the fact is he went when Juande Ramos was the manager - would he have gone if Harry Redknapp was the boss? I personally don't think so.

Redknapp has an appalling record for bringing young players through. Aside from his spell at West Ham (where he couldn't not pick players like Rio Ferdinand and Joe Cole), I can't think of a single player he has successfully promoted from the academies at Portsmouth and Southampton.

Redknapp is the ultimate cheque-book manager. As is now being shown at Spurs, he will always try to buy his way out of trouble rather than work with what he has got (Paul Wilson wrote an excellent piece on this in last weekend's Observer). He has an outstanding left-back in Gareth Bale, yet he hasn't been able to get any kind of performances out of him.

For such a revered manager his man-management in recent weeks has been appalling; telling his players how bad they are after every game, very publicly mocking Darren Bent's (whose goals were massive for Spurs when Redknapp first joined - unsurprisingly, he is now thought to be severely disillusioned at the club) miss against Portsmouth, stripping Jermaine Jenas of the vice-captaincy for having the temerity to have a bad game.

Redknapp has consistently bemoaned the strength in depth at the club (particularly in midfield, where they have Zokora, Bentley, Huddlestone, Lennon, Jenas, Modric, Ghaly, Giovani, Taarabt, O'Hara and Boateng out on loan), yet he hasn't even entertained putting Bostock, one of the best 17-year-olds in the world, on a 7-man bench (except in a couple of relatively meaningless Uefa Cup games - a competition he, along with the FA Cup, admits he's not really interested in this season).

With Wilson Palacios just signed, the prospects of Bostock getting near the first-team appear grim. If he doesn't make the squad for the weekend's cup game at Manchester United (where, disgustingly in my opinion, Redknapp has suggested he'll be putting out his weakest possible team) he really does have a problem.

Not many of you will have much sympathy for Bostock, but I can't help but thinking that it's a big shame that potentially one of England's key players for years to come may be lost in the system due to his manager's propensity for wheeling and dealing.
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Well reasoned yes, accurate ? Not entirely, without thinking about it really I'm pretty sure he brought through Walcott at Saints, & actually blooded a good number fo players from their academy whilst he was there. Needs must maybe, but nonetheless.
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I can't believe anyone has any sympathy for Bostock. Nobody forced him to go to Spuds. If his career goes nowhere and he doesn't fulfil his potential, guess what? HE DESERVES IT!
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With the recent allegations on chelsea and Man Utd in the press do you think spurs may get dragged into the argument over Bostock?
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With the recent allegations on chelsea and Man Utd in the press do you think spurs may get dragged into the argument over Bostock?
They should, but as we're not a "big club" I doubt it.
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With the recent allegations on chelsea and Man Utd in the press do you think spurs may get dragged into the argument over Bostock?
I'm sure Jordan may 'have his say' in the coming days on this. I wouldn't have thought that Spurs will be mentioned as effectively they have 'paid' Palace for Bostock's services - albeit a vastly undervalued sum.

The Chelsea issue relates to where they steal from other acadmeies but because they come from abroad they don't have to deal with the club or pay a fee for their services.

There was a story regarding Chelsea about Bostock where they didn't want to pay us (£5m rumoured figure). Barcelona were going to get Bostock from our Academy - for effectively nothing and then sell him to Chelsea for a small fee. There was definitely something about this. Big clubs looking after themselves at the expense of the hardworking smaller clubs.

John Terry was the last player Chelsea 'brought through' yet they stole him from West Ham at aged 14 or 15!!! I think Tottenhams was Sol Campbell (nearly 20 years ago!). Money talks sadly - even for young teenagers and especially their parents!!
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Grass is always greener eh? Bostock's just signed on loan for Brentford.
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Will be very interesting to see how be gets on there-I doubt he will even be playing regularly there, whereas he would be playing even more for us at a higher level!!!

I actually, genuinely 'lol'ed at this!!!
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