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Old 16-04-2017, 06:39 PM
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You mean like a 4-0 loss at home to the worst team in the league?
We weren't in good form at that point. Yes we'd won the previous game but that was a rare decent performance in a shocking spell. Our form changed two weeks later.
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My worry is that the Burnley game - our best chance of getting the points we (probably) still need will be our 3rd game in 6 days. And we will have almost certainly been chasing the ball, out of possession for the majority of the previous two.

I think Burnley could potentially be the crucial, decisive game for us. I really want to avoid a high pressure, 'relegation play-off' match with Hull - anything could happen in that kind of fixture with nerves and a fiesty atmosphere.
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Old 16-04-2017, 06:50 PM
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Has anyone who posts been to recent games?
We will easily finish on 40+ points
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Old 16-04-2017, 07:06 PM
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I would say that's us this year isn't it?
They seem to have ignored us???
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Got a feeling we will get something against Spurs and beat Burnley and will be safe when Hull come to town
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We will easily finish on 40+ points
Yes, I have been to recent games and have a season ticket.

However, I am not sure we will reach 40+ points. It is very possible but I also think it's very possible we won't.

This is how I would have us down:

Liverpool away Lose (No Sakho, Dann or probably Tomkins)
Tottenham home Lose (They are in fantastic form and are simply a better team than us)
Burnley home Win (BUT, the fact it will be our third game in 6 days worries me a bit)
Man City away Lose (They will obviously be favourites)
Hull home Draw (They are likely to be fighting for their lives and it may be a very tense, edgy game)
Man United away Lose (If they have a European final a few days later, it could help us but they will still be favourites, for very obvious reasons.

So that would take us to 38 EDIT: 39. And while it may well not be correct, it also doesn't appear to be an un-reasoned or irrational suggestion either. And as I said, the big danger for me is the fact the Burnley game falls when it does.

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A win against Burnley and a draw against Hull will take us to 39 points.

If we beat Hull, then even if we lose to Burnley and get no other points, Hull will need to win three of their other games against Watford (H), Southampton (A), Sunderland (H) and Spurs (H)

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Old 16-04-2017, 07:18 PM
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Yes, I have been to recent games and have a season ticket.

However, I am not sure we will reach 40+ points. It is very possible but I also think it's very possible we won't.

This is how I would have us down:

Liverpool away Lose (No Sakho, Dann or probably Tomkins)
Tottenham home Lose (They are in fantastic form and are simply a better team than us)
Burnley home Win (BUT, the fact it will be our third game in 6 days worries me a bit)
Man City away Lose (They will obviously be favourites)
Hull home Draw (They are likely to be fighting for their lives and it may be a very tense, edgy game)
Man United away Lose (If they have a European final a few days later, it could help us but they will still be favourites, for very obvious reasons.

So that would take us to 38. And while it may well not be correct, it also doesn't appear to be an un-reasoned or irrational suggestion either. And as I said, the big danger for me is the fact the Burnley game falls when it does.
That would be 39. Agree with all of that though, Hull could go either way. It would be typical Palace if Burnley get their only away win of the season at Selhurst!
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Yes, I have been to recent games and have a season ticket.

However, I am not sure we will reach 40+ points. It is very possible but I also think it's very possible we won't.

This is how I would have us down:

Liverpool away Lose (No Sakho, Dann or probably Tomkins)
Tottenham home Lose (They are in fantastic form and are simply a better team than us)
Burnley home Win (BUT, the fact it will be our third game in 6 days worries me a bit)
Man City away Lose (They will obviously be favourites)
Hull home Draw (They are likely to be fighting for their lives and it may be a very tense, edgy game)
Man United away Lose (If they have a European final a few days later, it could help us but they will still be favourites, for very obvious reasons.

So that would take us to 38. And while it may well not be correct, it also doesn't appear to be an un-reasoned or irrational suggestion either. And as I said, the big danger for me is the fact the Burnley game falls when it does.
Like all Palace fans, I always factor in disappointment. However, I'd be well surprised if we don't take about 7 points off the 6 games. Incidentally, we will get 39 not 38 points by your calculations. I'm actually somewhat optimistic about Liverpool. Can't say why but we have potential there even without Sahko.
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That's made me feel better...well, until I realised that Burnley and Hull won't be taking the game to us.

I feel we'll nick a point form one of the next two games, which would set up the Burnley game nicely, with a win all but securing survival (surely) on 39.
Burnley will, that's the only way they know how to play.
And Hull will need the points.
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My worry is that the Burnley game - our best chance of getting the points we (probably) still need will be our 3rd game in 6 days. And we will have almost certainly been chasing the ball, out of possession for the majority of the previous two.

I think Burnley could potentially be the crucial, decisive game for us. I really want to avoid a high pressure, 'relegation play-off' match with Hull - anything could happen in that kind of fixture with nerves and a fiesty atmosphere.

I thought Allardyce made a massive mistake playing the first 11 against Arsenal away when we had Swansea 2 days later and they had had a crucial extra days rest.

However there in recovery terms there is a big difference between 2 days recovery time and 3.

So do we play a weakened team at home to Spudz?

Well Sakho can't play at L'pool and centre backs don't put in an enormous mileage so need to rest the centrebacks perhaps Kelly, Sakho and Tomkins will all play 2 games.

PVA and Schlupp can rotate as can Schlupp and Townsend. Zaha is as fit as a fiddle and doesn't seem to require much recovery. Ward can probably cope too.

Luka is a holding player so really we are talking about Cabaye, Puncheon and Benteke.

I would certainly be happy to see Cabaye and Benteke just play a half against Spurs, assuming MaCarthur and Remy are fit. Which is a crazy assumption in the case of Remy!
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Yes, I have been to recent games and have a season ticket.

However, I am not sure we will reach 40+ points. It is very possible but I also think it's very possible we won't.

This is how I would have us down:

Liverpool away Lose (No Sakho, Dann or probably Tomkins)
Tottenham home Lose (They are in fantastic form and are simply a better team than us)
Burnley home Win (BUT, the fact it will be our third game in 6 days worries me a bit)
Man City away Lose (They will obviously be favourites)
Hull home Draw (They are likely to be fighting for their lives and it may be a very tense, edgy game)
Man United away Lose (If they have a European final a few days later, it could help us but they will still be favourites, for very obvious reasons.

So that would take us to 38. And while it may well not be correct, it also doesn't appear to be an un-reasoned or irrational suggestion either. And as I said, the big danger for me is the fact the Burnley game falls when it does.
Or...

Liverpool have only kept one clean sheet in the last 8 games and are vulnerable to counter attack. We'll upset their Champions League aspirations and they know that's what we do!. Minimum draw, possible win.

Spurs are now in striking distance of Chelski so the pressure will be immense on them. Last year when they finally got close to Leicester, they choked. History repeats. Home win.

Burnley's next game is the w*nkers. They'll still be on 36 points afterwards and will realise they have to start winning games again so they'll come at us. Perfect for the counter. Home win.

That'll put us on 42-44 points with three games to go...........
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Like many of us I'm paranoid as **** when it comes to Palace, I was at that infamous 'lap of honour' match before Oldham pulled off a miracle and Stockport but given our current form it looks highly unlikely we'll get no points from our remaining fixtures. Even more unlikely is Sund and Boro getting out of it and then Hull and Swansea suddenly hitting spectacular form. I don't dare believe it but I think we'll be alright. That said I'm praying we're safe by the time we play Man. U. cos that's a potential horror scenario.
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If you are worried put money on us at 33/1 to go down. Before we played Arsenal and Chelsea they were unwinable now Liverpool and Spurs are undrawable . Swansea have got one point from five games that were easy now in the last five they need three wins that is why it's 33/1.
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I have a growing sense that we are going to play a key part (not for the first time) in the kingmaker/slayer role against some of the big teams in our final fixtures ... will be interesting to see how some of those games pan out
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That would be 39. Agree with all of that though, Hull could go either way. It would be typical Palace if Burnley get their only away win of the season at Selhurst!
You are right, 39, but my point still stands (even if I was one point out)
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If you are worried put money on us at 33/1 to go down. Before we played Arsenal and Chelsea they were unwinable now Liverpool and Spurs are undrawable . Swansea have got one point from five games that were easy now in the last five they need three wins that is why it's 33/1.
I don't think anyone here is saying they think we will go down, but some are not counting our chickens yet. I think it would be different if we didn't still have a very tough looking run in.
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Old 16-04-2017, 10:55 PM
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One more win. we've got it in us.. as someone has mentioned.. the Burnley game is not great timing 3rd game in 6 days..
Let's hope we get a cheeky win form Liverpool or Spurs
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