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Old 11-10-2016, 12:36 PM
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Great. So that has nothing to do with what you said earlier. I thought your main interest in being out of the EU was a house price crash anyway? Is a hard Brexit the best way to achieve that in your opinion?
The wealthy are running for Assets like they have since 2007 to protect their wealth and the Government is trying to protect them like they have since the creditcrunch , It won't work forever and judgement day is hopefully going to be invoked by all the mugs who voted Tory at the last election .
The Tories = long term economic failure .

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Old 11-10-2016, 12:41 PM
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Quite probably outcome.

EU officials in Brussels - We will not negotiate on the 4 principles (even if it damages the rest of the EU too). So Britain can take it or leave it. If you want access such as City passporting you must accept free movement, still make a contribution to the EU budget and still give preferential tariff rates to EU products ahead of other counties. The EU knows if any British government does not accept it then whinging big business and City lobbyists will create merry hell. It does not matter what Percy Pensioner in Clacton, Mrs Minimum Wage cleaning lady in Skelmersdale or young Unemployed Lad in inner city estate thinks or voted.

UK government backs down. Then what? A vengeful electorate ignored by politicians and once again outmanoeuvred by better off interests has their say in the 2020 election.
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Old 11-10-2016, 12:46 PM
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The wealthy are running for Assets like they have since 2007 to protect their wealth and the Government is trying to protect them like they have since the creditcrunch , It won't work forever and judgement day is hopefully going to be invoked by all the mugs who voted Tory at the last election .
The Tories = long term economic failure .
Well, yes. But Brexit has only accelerated that.

Brexit has so far resulted in a massive transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich.
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Already seems like a long time ago that the Brexidiots were congratulating themselves on how well everything seemed to be going since the vote.

Where are you now?
I voted remain but apart from the fall in the £ they won't have been affected yet. If you work in a factory, warehouse or shop things won't have deteriorated yet. They will see on the news that the FTSE 100 index reached a record level today and nor will they be too concerned with the concerns of those in the City yet. They will be unconcerned with the personal abuse being dolled out to them. Note however I kept using the word "yet". People were saying the same after Bear Stearns collapsed and before the full affects of the crash became apparent. At some stage people will start to worry when it affects low paid workers. Also why would people bother to debate if they just get called thickos, bigots, Brexidiots etc?
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Already seems like a long time ago that the Brexidiots were congratulating themselves on how well everything seemed to be going since the vote.

Where are you now?
Their noisy bravado is gone and has been replaced by the sound of pennies dropping.
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Old 11-10-2016, 01:22 PM
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Well, yes. But Brexit has only accelerated that.

Brexit has so far resulted in a massive transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich.
That happened before Brexit .

The Tories have been in power since 2015 and the rich have never had it so good .

The Tories called the referendum .

The Tories have eroded public services and welfare .

The Tories have used the creditcrunch to reduce wages for millions and made the poor even poorer.

The Tories have made Housing unaffordable for millions by their policies that protect house prices from falling and favour landlords .



The EU referendum gave those like myself who have a worthless vote normally due to the UKs first past the post system , A massive chance to hit back at the Tories and EU's unfair policies on the poor and so we swung the vote , So those voters that created this mess by voting Tory will now have to live with the turmoil .

You can't complain about the Tories being right-wing if you voted them in ., What did you expect ? Them to bring in cuddly economic policies for ordinary folks and boost workers living standards

Yes the Tories are still in power and carrying out right-wing policy but at least it's getting harder for them to protect the wealthy at the expense of the lower classes without it hitting their wealth .

Those at the bottom of society and those who can never dream of owning their own property no matter how hard they work are not going to really care about the economic repercussions let's be honest .

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Brexit - the economic and social impact

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The wealthy are running for Assets like they have since 2007 to protect their wealth and the Government is trying to protect them like they have since the creditcrunch , It won't work forever and judgement day is hopefully going to be invoked by all the mugs who voted Tory at the last election .

The Tories = long term economic failure .

Who are the mugs who have facilitated that the poor will suffer disproportionately in comparison to the wealthy should we get it in the neck upon EU departure. Sadly, I think they have become fluffers for the people they despise?
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That happened before Brexit .

The Tories have been in power since 2015 and the rich have never had it so good .

The Tories called the referendum .

The Tories have eroded public services and welfare .

The Tories have used the creditcrunch to reduce wages for millions and made the poor even poorer.

The Tories have made Housing unaffordable for millions by their policies that protect house prices from falling and favour landlords .



The EU referendum gave those like myself who have a worthless vote normally due to the UKs first past the post system , A massive chance to hit back at the Tories and EU's unfair policies on the poor and so we swung the vote , So those voters that created this mess by voting Tory will now have to live with the turmoil .

You can't complain about the Tories being right-wing if you voted them in ., What did you expect ? Them to bring in cuddly economic policies for ordinary folks and boost workers living standards

Yes the Tories are still in power and carrying out right-wing policy but at least it's getting harder for them to protect the wealthy at the expense of the lower classes without it hitting their wealth .

Those at the bottom of society and those who can never dream of owning their own property no matter how hard they work are not going to really care about the economic repercussions let's be honest .
It was only a matter of time. Brexit was caused by remainers. Priceless.
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Old 11-10-2016, 01:33 PM
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Racehorse has done the right wing more favours than David Cameron.
No those who voted Tory and UKIP instead of Labour have , The Tories would be no different under a remain vote , The EU are not left-wing or for the workers .
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I going to have one of my legendary breaks as nothing major is going to happen until at least 2017 but it's been good stirring up a few Tory remoaners into debating their parties failings since they voted them in .

Remember Brexit occurred under the Tories and history will remember that forever .
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Old 11-10-2016, 01:42 PM
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I voted remain but apart from the fall in the £ they won't have been affected yet. If you work in a factory, warehouse or shop things won't have deteriorated yet. They will see on the news that the FTSE 100 index reached a record level today and nor will they be too concerned with the concerns of those in the City yet. They will be unconcerned with the personal abuse being dolled out to them. Note however I kept using the word "yet". People were saying the same after Bear Stearns collapsed and before the full affects of the crash became apparent. At some stage people will start to worry when it affects low paid workers. Also why would people bother to debate if they just get called thickos, bigots, Brexidiots etc?
All good points.

And you're right, insulting people isn't going to get us anywhere. The problem is that remain voters have tried to argue through issues intelligently and patiently but leave voters have either chosen not to listen or do not understand.
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The general tone of the EU is and always has been to the left of the UK Tory party.
Many Europeans believe that the EU - economically at least - has followed an Anglo-Saxon pro-competition agenda over the last 10-15 years. They would argue that EU policies are to the right of their own national politics. This is the problem with the whole perception around Europe in the UK. We seem to think of the EU as being an extension of the domestic policies of other European countries and of the whole project as being us against them.
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I going to have one of my legendary breaks as nothing major is going to happen until at least 2017 but it's been good stirring up a few Tory remoaners into debating their parties failings since they voted them in .

Remember Brexit occurred under the Tories and history will remember that forever .
So, you voted to leave to have a pop at the Tories, forgetting the social and economic impact of your vote?
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Thanks, but what I actually asked for is intellectual discussion of the pro-Brexit position. All those sources would primarily have opposed the policy.

What I’m specifically looking for is economic analysis on how Britain can benefit from Brexit and policy analysis on what it would need to do to fulfil this. A source of pro Brexit positions that acknowledges the risks and trade offs and makes considered policy recommendations (not “they have to do a deal”).

This is a political movement, what is its intellectual base? How are those people responding to events since the referendum?
My apologies: I obviously read too hastily. Not sure how much of these hold up to scrutiny but....

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Remember Brexit occurred under the Tories and history will remember that forever .
And remember, you enthusiastically supported them. Your attempts at assuaging your complicity by re-writing history and feeble self justification will not change that.
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So, you voted to leave to have a pop at the Tories, forgetting the social and economic impact of your vote?
Nope , I have hopefully speeded up the inevitable Asset crash and debt right-offs that will follow whilst condemning the Tories and EU right-wing ideology to the dustbin . A price worth paying if it works which I grant you is not guaranteed but hey at least my normally worthless UK vote meant something in this referendum and could begin to unravel the creditcrunch lies .
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Nope , I have hopefully speeded up the inevitable Asset crash and debt right-offs that will follow whilst condemning the Tories and EU right-wing ideology to the dustbin . A price worth paying if it works which I grant you is not guaranteed but hey at least my normally worthless UK vote meant something in this referendum and could begin to unravel the creditcrunch lies .
So you're ok with the spiralling hate crime, crashing economy and limits to where we can go?
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