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Old 10-02-2017, 12:03 AM
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So I gave him the benefit of the doubt given we didn't know the details. Now that he has shared the details, I admit, I gave him more benefit than I should have.

I hope that at the end of the season we're in a position where he's regretting the first team football he's missed and the wages he wouldn't have missed.
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Old 10-02-2017, 01:16 AM
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Said we offered a contract near equal to his Arsenal one but with a relegation clause which cut it by up to 40% haha
Bloke has to realise that he has not developed as well as Arsenal thought when granting his generous present salary package, so if he wants game time he has to move to a club who will employ a lesser quality player, which in turn means he is unlikely to get the same pay deal. If he doesnt want to accept reduced terms then he can just stay at Arsenal Reserves, but saying its not about money is absurd because it patently is. No problem with him being money conscious but stop bullshitting man, you are not good enough to have it both ways
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Said we offered a contract near equal to his Arsenal one but with a relegation clause which cut it by up to 40% haha
depressing on two counts. 1. he doesn't think we'd stay up 2. he doesn't believe in his own ability enough that if we got relegated he'd play well enough to get a move somewhere else
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Old 10-02-2017, 05:39 AM
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depressing on two counts. 1. he doesn't think we'd stay up 2. he doesn't believe in his own ability enough that if we got relegated he'd play well enough to get a move somewhere else
Exactly what I thought! Really not the attitude you need in a relegation battle!
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Assuming this was all pre-Sakho, should have come on loan if that was the case. Kept his big salary with no risk of a pay cut, played some first team football and put himself in the shop window for the summer.

If we are not relegated, could have had the option to sign him permanently. Alternatively, did no other prem want him on loan ?

Needs to sort out attitude otherwise 3yrs in the Arsenal reserves beckons and then a career with millwall ... I'm already thinking that he's their Jordon Mutch!
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So he said it wasn't about money and then said he didn't want to take a 40% drop if we get relegated. So it is about money.
Exactly. Think it's best all round that this fell through. We're not good enough for Carl Jenkinson.
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depressing on two counts. 1. he doesn't think we'd stay up 2. he doesn't believe in his own ability enough that if we got relegated he'd play well enough to get a move somewhere else
Probably is thinking along the same lines as many of us on here too then.
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How many of their young talents have developed to any great extent, other than natural ageing. Indeed their expensive and vaunted youth academy, been a while for any player to emerge if memory serves.

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The guy's in La La Land.....surely most clubs will have a relegation clause, as a Prem wage on Championship income would be 'silly money', to repeat his phrase.

So, now what options does he have? Arsenal have already accepted our offer for him, so he knows they're likely to be open to offers from other clubs....meaning his future is unlikely to be at Arsenal.

Maybe another Prem club will come in for him in the summer, but they'll likely to be a lower Prem club with a relaxation clause again. He might therefore find himself in exactly the same position this time next year.

Strikes me as someone who has got used to a cushy time at Arsenal (not in fear of relegation at least) and wants the big money but not prepared to work that hard for it.

This is an example of one of the many problems with Prem clubs having too much money...a fringe player like him can receive more sitting on his butt there than we might pay him to be in our first team.
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It really is a pity he did not join as he is a very good attacking defender that would have played the Right Wing Back role superbly if that is to be the new system we adopt, and is someone we needed to give us that better attacking and crossing option than the unlucky Joel Ward.
As for turning down our offer, do we really know the facts? unfortunately the greed factor is part of the modern footballers demands in any contract discussions. Also lets not forget if as its been suggested Sakho has joined from Liverpool for a reported 100k p.w, also our own Sako on 60k p.w and is someone who has seldom played, then can we blame him for demanding more than his current wage if he was to join.
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