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I would prefer to postpone the emotion of scoring by a few seconds, rather than suffer the despair of finding out later on MOTD that we had a winning goal incorrectly ruled out.
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67 seconds. Without VAR the Leicester players might have spent that long arguing it and going over to the linesman etc.
Last night was very close, so as long as the lino's don't get complacent and rely on VAR it has the capacity to make the game more reliable. How many games have had VAR now? 4/5? How many decisions have held the game up and we know that an incorrect match defining decision has been corrected. Need a bigger sample of matches but people complaining that there was not much emotion when they scored it is probably partly because they didn't. The only time the goal was awarded was after VAR. |
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For comparison though, I imagine it will be like when we got the penalty versus Watford in the play off final. Initial jubilation at the penalty decision, then nervous as **** waiting for it to be taken, and then more a relief that we'd scored than celebration! I did almost feel "cheated" out of our moment! In terms of offside decisions, it would only take some fancy AI to be built into the technology, and you could potentially take offsides away from the assistant referees, in much the same way goal line technology has done for that instance. It would obviously be much harder, as you'd need to build in things like when is a player active, when is the ball played etc, but I would imagine that may be the next step forward.
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My only criticism would be that maybe the crowd should be able to hear the deliberations, like in rugby. |
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The response time is aimed to be 30 seconds. That's quicker than it is usually to take a corner, goal kick or making a sub. They should show the replay on the big screen once the decision has been made, so the fans at the game can see why it was given either way.
I'd rather they get the right decision, than be peed for days afterwards. Those Tommy Black (vs Leeds) and Freddie Sears (vs Bristol City) goals that weren't given still annoy me.
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If VAR makes top level matches better will non-league football cease to exist or stop being exciting because decisions made by professionals are not 100% accurate? |
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Maybe I should change my opinion on VAR!! |
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That's true, okay lets have the Sako penalty from the other night then.
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Presumably, if Moss had blown before Iheanacho had put it in, they couldn’t have given a goal as Fleetwood would have claimed that they stopped playing at the whistle?
The problem that raises is that there is a danger that referees and assistants start abdicating their responsibility and rely on the VAR to the detriment of the defending team. It starts with assistants either not flagging, or referees ignoring the flag, in the knowledge that VAR will correct them and disallow the goal if they’re wrong; this being the ‘safe’ option because it avoids criticism that they would get if they were to flag/blow when it wasn’t offside. The problem is that what that leads to; the unflagged offside player shoots and the keeper saves and the ball gets put out for a corner. The defending team, who should have a free-kick for offside, now have to defend a corner which they shouldn’t be facing and have effectively been penalised for VAR being in place as it isn’t used for corners conceded. At its’ most extreme they could concede from what should have been their free-kick.
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Complicating a simple game. Meant to be a sport, where we accept best endeavours from all concerned.
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I hate it I love the drama of football, the human side of it, the was it right/wrong decisions etc
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Also, hearing the deliberations is asking for trouble re penalty decisions, I thought there should have had a penalty last night when the player was held back in the box, however the VAR ref decided not..... many penalty decisions are purely a personal judgement
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There will still be drama in the sport. Any sport that allows anything like that Freddie Sears non-goal to happen is just prehistoric.
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The problem is too many decisions are a matter of opinion.
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Any major decisions that are 50/50 the ref will have to give the last word and that’s that
However any major decisions that are completely wrong can be corrected with VAR, think Snodgrass
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The concept is sound. The execution is shite.
What did we expect though? And the crowds will continue to turn up, VAR or not. |
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Tonight’s game shows how crap it is
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Yep, it’s crap.
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