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Old 13-08-2017, 02:57 PM
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De Boer says he's incredibly fast, which I assumed was the defining quality of a wing back. And he seems good enough on the ball to me. He's been playing RB for Utd in pre season (in a back 4). Maybe he's not great at crossing or something. Or maybe I've got the qualities of the wing back wrong.

I'd feel much more comfortable with a back 5 of Fosu-Mensah, Tomkins, Dann, Riedewald (or even Sakho) and PVA over what we saw yesterday.
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Old 13-08-2017, 03:04 PM
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De Boer says he's incredibly fast, which I assumed was the defining quality of a wing back. And he seems good enough on the ball to me. He's been playing RB for Utd in pre season (in a back 4). Maybe he's not great at crossing or something. Or maybe I've got the qualities of the wing back wrong.

I'd feel much more comfortable with a back 5 of Fosu-Mensah, Tomkins, Dann, Riedewald (or even Sakho) and PVA over what we saw yesterday.
A back 5! Crikey. In effect the 343 drops to a 541 when pushed deep but starting with 5 at the back every week sounds like a bad idea to me.
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Did feel sorry for him playing on the same side as Ward yesterday. Did alright considering.
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Either way it wasn't enough to warrant going down like that.

His reaction/behaviour shocked a number of people around me in the AW.
Have you ever been elbowed in the face regardless of intent? It's enough to knock any man down ffs.

We are seriously slating one of our best performing players on the day because he fell down when he was elbowed in the face? Next week can't come soon enough.
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Old 13-08-2017, 03:34 PM
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Have you ever been elbowed in the face regardless of intent? It's enough to knock any man down ffs.

We are seriously slating one of our best performing players on the day because he fell down when he was elbowed in the face? Next week can't come soon enough.
I thought that was a bit weird too TBH
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Did feel sorry for him playing on the same side as Ward yesterday. Did alright considering.
Would have swapped them round personally. Not sure Ward would have got close to making that tackle though when Dann fecked up
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Thought he was fantastic. Glad we have him and he will be great for us this season.
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Old 27-08-2017, 08:40 AM
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This is nice.


Also, his diagonal balls are tasty, it's a real shame our team isn't set up to make the most of them.
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Old 27-08-2017, 08:46 AM
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Very good player.

Play him at right back in a flat back four and we'll see a bit more joy.
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Old 27-08-2017, 09:18 AM
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Good player and will be a premier league player for years but still inexperienced and allowed ayew I think to get across him far too easily for the header in the third minute and then almost gave Abraham's a soft goal in the first half as well
Point is he has great potential but he is not there yet and we are doing a great job for man utd
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Old 27-08-2017, 09:22 AM
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Point is , it's another loan player . no long term plan
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Old 27-08-2017, 09:58 AM
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He has made an excellent start since his arrival and has been our best defender by some distance over the games so far.
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He's good and he's only going to get better and boy o boy are we going to need him this season.
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Point is , it's another loan player . no long term plan
He's done well so far, and has Lofus-Cheek on what we have seen.

I just wish we were in a position where we was blooding our own youth products as opposed to just doing the job for other clubs who then just sell on for a profit...
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He looked the best of a poor defensive bunch. He's much better in central defence then when he's asked to go forward as an attacking right back.
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He has made an excellent start since his arrival and has been our best defender by some distance over the games so far.
I disagree, from what i have seen he comes over as promising no more with a lot still to learn, which offcourse is understandable for a 19yr old. If we are being truthful in the league games so far he has looked suspect at times and yesterday backed that up, which could well be down to the system used and also the players lack of belief and confidence currently.
I really believe we must revert to a Back Four, with possibly a Midfield Five which would offer protection for the Full Backs aswell, especially as it is a newly formed defence that are far too open currently.
We must stop the rot with whatever system it takes which has to be our priority and NOW, which would go against the grain of what FdB is trying to achieve, but what is more important now, FdB beliefs or the future of Palace? as relegation will be catastrophic.
As for Fosu-Mensah i reserve judgement for now based on what i have seen to date, but am sure he will get better, but unfortunately will then return to his parent club is worth bearing in mind.
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Old 27-08-2017, 11:49 AM
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I disagree, from what i have seen he comes over as promising no more with a lot still to learn, which offcourse is understandable for a 19yr old. If we are being truthful in the league games so far he has looked suspect at times and yesterday backed that up, which could well be down to the system used and also the players lack of belief and confidence currently.
I really believe we must revert to a Back Four, with possibly a Midfield Five which would offer protection for the Full Backs aswell, especially as it is a newly formed defence that are far too open currently.
We must stop the rot with whatever system it takes which has to be our priority and NOW, which would go against the grain of what FdB is trying to achieve, but what is more important now, FdB beliefs or the future of Palace? as relegation will be catastrophic.
As for Fosu-Mensah i reserve judgement for now based on what i have seen to date, but am sure he will get better, but unfortunately will then return to his parent club is worth bearing in mind.
Disagreeing is good. I think our whole back line has looked suspect in every game at some point. I would still stick by him being our best defender throughout each of the 3 games. He has had a 'moment' in each of the games but the others have all been worse.
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Think all 3 signings are good players. Riedewald has had one poor game and shouldn't be written off either. Fosu Mensah is class though. Maybe we'll sign some more this week despite the league position, who knows.
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Think all 3 signings are good players. Riedewald has had one poor game and shouldn't be written off either. Fosu Mensah is class though. Maybe we'll sign some more this week despite the league position, who knows.
I think all 3 are good too. Would like to see a couple more experienced players come in this week as well though.
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Disagreeing is good. I think our whole back line has looked suspect in every game at some point. I would still stick by him being our best defender throughout each of the 3 games. He has had a 'moment' in each of the games but the others have all been worse.
Collectively our defence has been shambolic, hence why we have lost All our games, I would question that he has looked our best as i feel Dann (not one of your favourites from your previous responses) after his long layoff has done a solid job and shades it, but maybe that has not been too difficult currently.
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