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The Yorkshire Evening Post Saturday October 17th 1936. |
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Same as it ever was!
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The Yorkshire Post Friday June 8th 1934 |
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The Yorkshire Post Saturday September 20th 1930 |
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Western Daily Press Bristol Monday 13th 1926. |
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Match report starts half way down left side with Palace line up top of second column.
Western Daily Press Bristol Saturday March 22nd 1913. |
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Western Daily Press Bristol Thursday 27th December 1928. |
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Western Daily Press Bristol Thursday March 17th 1927 |
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Yorkshire Evening Post - Thursday 16 October 1913. Thats all for today,more later in the week... |
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Newspaper articles from exactly 113 years ago, today.
(couldn't find these ones on the thread already...) Match reports from the Norwood News for Palace's first and second ever games (on Sep. 01 & 02). "The Palace" won their first game at New Brompton in the United League (by 3 goals to none), and then played the next day at home to a Southampton Reserves side (losing 3:4, despite having lead 3:0). To view the link you have to Register or Login Norwood News (p8) - 09 September 1905. To view the link you have to Register or Login Norwood News (p7) - 09 September 1905.
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Hoolies 98 years ago!
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From the reports I have read, the Southend players were kicking lumps out of one or two of the Palace players, when you look at the line-up of the Palace side that day two players were missing from the team in the following game, Bert Feebury and Ted Smith, Smith was Palace's leading goal scorer too, as important to Palace fans then as Johnny Byrne, Ian Wright, Andy Johnson or Wilf Zaha to the support in subsequent generations.
It seems Smith was sufficiently injured to end his career a couple of months later, it's probably fair to say, without the missing four seasons caused by the First World War, he would quite comfortably have been Palace's all time leading goalscorer - so no great surprise that the fans were incensed if he was getting targeted. It doesn't seem like there was any actual trouble between rival supporters, possibly just a few fans deciding to give the Southend players a taste of their own medicine as the players left at the end of the match! The only other similar incident I have read about was at the same ground about ten years before, this time, Palace were the away side at the Nest, playing Croydon Common and both sets of players ended up squaring up to each other - as you can imagine, it was a proper local derby, Selhurst v Upper Norwood!
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A new chapter begins...
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The Era Sunday 18 September 1853 Read something about The Albion pub mentioned in this report - as many of us know it and have possibly visited it many times over the years in South Norwood, just over the road from the Jolly Sailor also mentioned in this ancient report, posted for us by Plumey a few years ago on this thread. Apparently, The Albion takes it's name from HMS Albion, one of the last Royal Navy ships of it's class before steam ships came into general use. What is quite uncanny, if the date mentioned of September 1853 is correct, is that HMS Albion first military action took place during the Crimean War at the Siege of Sevastapol in October 1854, over a year after this match report! I have read elsewhere that many of the men that were employed in building the Crystal Palace went on to fight in the Crimean War - possibly dying there only months after the new building was completed earlier in 1854. All in all, given this also the first ever report of the Crystal Palace Cricket Club that was the forerunner of the first ever Crystal Palace FC some 8 years later in 1861, this is quite a fascinating bit of history, probably worthy of a bit more scrutiny.
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Very unusual in that the Crystal Palace (in its new home of Sydenham) wasn't even finished being built there (opened 1854?) yet there was already a cricket club called Crystal Palace!
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Fascinating pen pictures of the 1907/08 Palace players in a January 1908 edition of the Coventry Evening Telegraph.
To set the scene, Palace had knocked out Newcastle United a year earlier in the 1906/7 FA Cup, in only Palace’s second season and our first as a Southern League Division One side (probably equivalent to League One in modern terms) - Newcastle were easily the strongest League side of the era, Champions in 1905, 1907 and 1909. A year on, by way of contrast, Coventry City were still playing in the Birmingham Junior League and were a season off entering the Southern League, so the visit of Palace was actually a huge event in their early history, with reports on preparations for the match which smashed Coventry’s attendance record of the time, 12,000 was easily their biggest gate and transport from neighbouring East Midlands towns and extra police laid on specially for the fixture. This in depth preview of the Palace team for the eagerly awaiting Coventry public is one of the best in depth summaries of the earliest Palace players I have yet seen - fantastic snap shot of the modern CPFC still in it’s infancy but already drawing huge respect from around the country. For the record, Palace won an entertaining match 4-2, before bowing out away to Grimsby Town.
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Reading Plumeys post #362 and CP sat's last post it's interesting that in both games (hull away and Cov away) the team travelled up the day before the game. It's a luxury you tend to think was practiced more in modern times. There was definitely more money floating around in the game than people were led to believe. Illicit back handers and no show jobs were prevalent.
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I’m not sure if happened at all away games but at a guess, because it was an FA Cup tie, Palace would have got a third of the gate receipts, which would have been a decent amount for the Coventry game.
One of the points made in the very good Origin of Crystal Palace FC books (by Steve Martynuik) was that the Palace Board probably didn’t want to join the Football League straight away when the modern CPFC were formed in 1905. Up to then, only Arsenal (then known as Woolwich Arsenal) were London’s sole representatives (Luton were the only other Southern club too and barely lasted a couple of seasons in the FL before financial problems forced a return to the Southern League). Chelsea and Clapton Orient became only the 2nd and 3rd London FL clubs in 1905 - and part of Chelsea’s enticement tor the other mainly Northern and Midland clubs to vote them in was that they would pay towards the visiting clubs travel expenses getting to Stamford Bridge. It seems it took several years for the Palace to start to break even with League gate reciepts and the FA Cup ties were often a large part of our income.
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True, at the beginning of pro football most of the big clubs were mostly based in northern railways towns.This was a big enticement for the many Scots who filled up the ranks of most teams. Hop on a train in Glasgow and a few hours later you're in a foreign country called Preston.
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