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Old 03-11-2017, 08:07 AM
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I'm simply passing on comments made to me some of which come from researchers and advisors. Who confirmed the whatsapp group. Westminster has all the ingredients for power abuse and sleaze. Young impressionable interns and staff who want to be MPs and the MPs themselves who think the world owes them favours for being, well MPs. Throw in all the alcohol late night bars and entertaining. It's a recipie for harassment.
Think about it there is a list on a Whatsapp group , there maybe, but would it only contain Tory names. The answer is no there are enough examples out there that would mean Tory Lab SNP Lib Dems names would be on it.
So when it was released these were all taken off and the Tory names left on and its claimed its a Tory Whip list.
If you stop think about it the list story is top class bullshit. What I suggest is a certain group of researchers have drawn up their Tory hit list and released it in light of the accusations elsewhere. The impact is significant and yes Westminster needs cleaning up but I don't think that was the aim when releasing it this was politics of the old school.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:00 AM
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Think about it there is a list on a Whatsapp group , there maybe, but would it only contain Tory names. The answer is no there are enough examples out there that would mean Tory Lab SNP Lib Dems names would be on it.
So when it was released these were all taken off and the Tory names left on and its claimed its a Tory Whip list.
If you stop think about it the list story is top class bullshit. What I suggest is a certain group of researchers have drawn up their Tory hit list and released it in light of the accusations elsewhere. The impact is significant and yes Westminster needs cleaning up but I don't think that was the aim when releasing it this was politics of the old school.
You can imagine all you want about this story. Fallon wasn't on the list he didn't go because of stroking the knee of a journalist - he went because he used language of harassment towards Leadsom and his 'friend's tell us there's more to come.

The fact is MP's are in effect self employed and they employ directly the staff who supply advice and administration. Those staff are very vulnerable - they have no right of appeal to anyone and when they do complain they are ignored.

But they meet up and have coffee and chat about who has done what to whom. They may even tell their MP they work for. There are plenty of avenues for lists to be complied. I don't think for one moment this is some sort of conspiracy.

Next come the journalists and lobbyists, followed by guests who want to be an MP or at least meet their MP.

Throw in the bars and restaurants and expense accounts and it becomes an acceptable routine and hazard to negotiate. On top of that there are the Party conferences and other events.

Alcohol should not be on sale at the House of Commons frankly.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:02 AM
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Judging by this mornings revelation about Michael Fallon I'm expecting him to pop up as a poster on our 'guilty fancies' thread!
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Old 03-11-2017, 11:16 AM
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poor old Corbo going to have some tricky questions to answer about that bloke that has been suspended
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Old 03-11-2017, 12:43 PM
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poor old Corbo going to have some tricky questions to answer about that bloke that has been suspended
What the bloke who resigned from the cabinet because of differences with corbyn?
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Old 03-11-2017, 01:03 PM
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What the bloke who resigned from the cabinet because of differences with corbyn?
I meant about the promoting him bit

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Old 03-11-2017, 09:19 PM
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:29 PM
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Also,Labour investigating allegation that Clive Lewis groped an activists bum at party conference.

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Old 03-11-2017, 09:29 PM
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Looks like the shit is hitting the fan this weekend. Labour besides Hopkins have two Clive and Ian Lewis in trouble. Guess there will more from both sides.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:31 PM
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Spin doctors and lobbyists from all sides will be busy trying to desperately switch the attention to other parties. All ferociously condemning the sins of the other side.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:35 PM
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for what it's worth Lewis has completley denied the allegation and said it's something that he just wouldn't do.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:36 PM
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Spin doctors and lobbyists from all sides will be busy trying to desperately switch the attention to other parties. All ferociously condemning the sins of the other side.
yes, it's kind of sad really.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:48 PM
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I only know of him because of his anti-immigrant/pro-Brexit stuff. Does he hold any positions in the party?
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:53 PM
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I only know of him because of his anti-immigrant/pro-Brexit stuff. Does he hold any positions in the party?
I don't think so. I'm probably less aware than you are. The fact they've taken the step to report it to the police is concerning, it's not usually how the political parties roll.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:59 PM
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I only know of him because of his anti-immigrant/pro-Brexit stuff. Does he hold any positions in the party?
Yes. Untenable.
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Old 03-11-2017, 10:29 PM
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Other than Bex Bailey and the Labour official has there been any allegations that are criminal offences rather than just tacky yet?
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I only know of him because of his anti-immigrant/pro-Brexit stuff. Does he hold any positions in the party?
This has really cheered me up. Elphick is the sack of shit who defended his chum Heaton Harris MP when he intimidated University lecturers. Elphick said if they had nothing to hide hey shouldn't be worried.
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