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Old 10-11-2017, 11:40 AM
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This is just appalling: To view the link you have to Register or Login

I guess no CCTV in the house of commons bars?
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:43 AM
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This is just appalling: To view the link you have to Register or Login

I guess no CCTV in the house of commons bars?
She worked there for four years, so I am assuming the harassment was not exceptional.
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:44 AM
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She worked there for four years, so I am assuming the harassment was not exceptional.

Not many jobs around... she could have been trapped (financially)
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Old 10-11-2017, 12:07 PM
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She worked there for four years, so I am assuming the harassment was not exceptional.
yeah she was probably asking for it
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Old 10-11-2017, 12:11 PM
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yeah she was probably asking for it
No, I didn't say that. It's equally possible that this is simply opportunistic.
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Old 10-11-2017, 12:22 PM
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No, I didn't say that. It's equally possible that this is simply opportunistic.
lots of things are possible. Your reply was pretty dismissive. There are lots of reasons why she may have decided to stay, naivety and money would be obvious ones. How about commenting on the actual allegations?
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Old 10-11-2017, 12:38 PM
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This is just appalling: To view the link you have to Register or Login

I guess no CCTV in the house of commons bars?
Disgusting. They should all be sacked and prosecuted where possible.
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The only allegation as far as I can see concerns an unnamed MP. And the general complaint that people in a bar can sometimes be obnoxious.
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The only allegation as far as I can see concerns an unnamed MP. And the general complaint that people in a bar can sometimes be obnoxious.
Groping someones thigh is sexual assault. This should be investigated.

There should also be a general review, and MPs should have to sign and be held account to codes of conducts, and acting like drunken pervs in bars in parliament should be one the things they can be held accountable for.
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Old 10-11-2017, 12:46 PM
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She worked there for four years, so I am assuming the harassment was not exceptional.
I normally find your comments considered even if I don't sometimes agree
This is not your best work
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Old 10-11-2017, 12:55 PM
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I'm not too sure it is a serious story. I think it is The Sun on an opportunistic roll of the dice. And for that reason I think it is a frothy distraction from the serious stuff.

Happy to be proved wrong.
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I'm not too sure it is a serious story. I think it is The Sun on an opportunistic roll of the dice. And for that reason I think it is a frothy distraction from the serious stuff.

Happy to be proved wrong.
Don't agree at all. Women working in bars and clubs get routinely harassed, groped and assaulted as if it is part of the job. It's not, it's a crime.
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Old 10-11-2017, 02:14 PM
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I don't think it's unreasonable to expect more than a paid-for newspaper interview before assuming a crime has taken place.
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Old 10-11-2017, 03:30 PM
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I don't think it's unreasonable to expect more than a paid-for newspaper interview before assuming a crime has taken place.
Nobody is saying its definitely true but why assume its false and be so dismissive? In light of the recent allegations / confessions / resignations & a suicide from our MPs is it really so unlikely to be true? Is the Guido Fawkes list also untrue? Is it more likely someone would just lie about this stuff because a newspaper would pay a modest fee for such a story? Really?
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Old 10-11-2017, 04:09 PM
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Single source reporting is often dubious, that's why.

To require additional verification - and I'm not denying it may come - is being responsible, not dismissive.
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Single source reporting is often dubious, that's why.

To require additional verification - and I'm not denying it may come - is being responsible, not dismissive.
Responsible? This is a bulletin board not a jury! You keep digging but you have been dismissive of an apparent victim of serial assaults which are not out of line with other recent disclosures. If it's true it's terrible and there is nothing irresponsible about saying so.
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Responsible? This is a bulletin board not a jury! You keep digging.
I don't "keep digging" ; it's a bulletin board for people to express opinions.
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Responsible? This is a bulletin board not a jury! You keep digging but you have been dismissive of an apparent victim of serial assaults which are not out of line with other recent disclosures. If it's true it's terrible and there is nothing irresponsible about saying so.
Totally agree that people should start from a position of believing women when they come forward saying they have been harassed and assaulted.
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But not men?
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But not men?
Both. Gender is neither here nor there if someone has suffered harassment or sexual assault.
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