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Old 24-07-2017, 01:47 PM
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with chambers priced at 20 and keane at 25 sakho is starting to look cheap!
Not sure where the logic lies in that thinking
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Old 24-07-2017, 02:14 PM
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Not sure where the logic lies in that thinking
Really?
Sakho is several levels above both players and he's only 27 no where near his peak yet.
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Yeah probably. Once he'd agreed personal terms and bought a house
Bought a house? Thought it was Benteke that was house-hunting
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Old 24-07-2017, 02:57 PM
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Really?
Sakho is several levels above both players and he's only 27 no where near his peak yet.
27 is very very close to peak age, even for a CB, especially one with injury concerns.
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Old 24-07-2017, 03:13 PM
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27 is very very close to peak age, even for a CB, especially one with injury concerns.
Total BS he will play until he's 34-35 he may slow down a bit but will read the game better than he does now which is still better than all our CH's now the bloke is class
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Total BS he will play until he's 34-35 he may slow down a bit but will read the game better than he does now which is still better than all our CH's now the bloke is class
Do you know what peak means?
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I think it's easier to remember games when he didn't get booked
Would be interested if someone has the stats as my memory was that he had a pretty decent disciplinary record in the games he played for us. We kept expecting him to explode but it didn't happen to any great extent?
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27 is very very close to peak age, even for a CB, especially one with injury concerns.
I think 10 years ago that would be right but now with how far sports medicine has come its realistic to expect a CB to peak 29-30 and then decline
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Old 24-07-2017, 04:15 PM
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27 is very very close to peak age, even for a CB, especially one with injury concerns.
So what is wrong with buying someone at or close to their supposed 'peak'?

Chambers is 23 (?) so by that logic, he will never ever play for us close to this 'peak' age.

I understand the element of re-sale value, but we do actually want to buy players who maybe are actually really good now rather then every one of them being potentially good at some point (when we will sell them anyway).

Age of 27 (£30m fee. Over 3 seasons, a player at or near his 'peak' £16m a season with wages. Give or take of course. Some re-sale value at the end or even an extension. So that changes those figures a touch.

Age 22 (fee of 18m) lets assume 3 seasons again, how good we are not sure. Slighty lower wages, so say £11m each season. Potential re-sale value, but a lot depends on how he has done.

So very very rough figures. But let's take them at face value and MS is £5m more a season. Good value? I think so.

This peak age thing. Nice to know we only have to wait a couple more years for Mutch to blossom.
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So what is wrong with buying someone at or close to their supposed 'peak'?

Chambers is 23 (?) so by that logic, he will never ever play for us close to this 'peak' age.

I understand the element of re-sale value, but we do actually want to buy players who maybe are actually really good now rather then every one of them being potentially good at some point (when we will sell them anyway).

Age of 27 (£30m fee. Over 3 seasons, a player at or near his 'peak' £16m a season with wages. Give or take of course. Some re-sale value at the end or even an extension. So that changes those figures a touch.

Age 22 (fee of 18m) lets assume 3 seasons again, how good we are not sure. Slighty lower wages, so say £11m each season. Potential re-sale value, but a lot depends on how he has done.

So very very rough figures. But let's take them at face value and MS is £5m more a season. Good value? I think so.

This peak age thing. Nice to know we only have to wait a couple more years for Mutch to blossom.
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So what is wrong with buying someone at or close to their supposed 'peak'?

Chambers is 23 (?) so by that logic, he will never ever play for us close to this 'peak' age.

I understand the element of re-sale value, but we do actually want to buy players who maybe are actually really good now rather then every one of them being potentially good at some point (when we will sell them anyway).

Age of 27 (£30m fee. Over 3 seasons, a player at or near his 'peak' £16m a season with wages. Give or take of course. Some re-sale value at the end or even an extension. So that changes those figures a touch.

Age 22 (fee of 18m) lets assume 3 seasons again, how good we are not sure. Slighty lower wages, so say £11m each season. Potential re-sale value, but a lot depends on how he has done.

So very very rough figures. But let's take them at face value and MS is £5m more a season. Good value? I think so.

This peak age thing. Nice to know we only have to wait a couple more years for Mutch to blossom.
Nothing is wrong with buying a player in their peak, but that should be taken into account when valuing the player. I think we should buy Sakho...
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The Sakho or Chambers debate seems a bit irrelevant to me in one respect.

If we do continue to play 3 at the back, then the footedness becomes more important - as at times the wider 2 CBs will be filling a full back role. Therefore Chambers would surely be targeted to play on the right side and Sakho to play on the left.

If there is any chance at all that we sign Sakho then the debate is more between BMI or Sakho, or possibly even Riedewald or Sakho - if it is the latter, then the decision appears to have already been made.
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