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Old 21-02-2018, 06:49 PM
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Look back at Benteke's assists - they stretch the meaning in many cases. The one at Burnley at home is a good example.

I'd give Benteke one or two more chances but if he doesn't finally deliver then time to drop him and give Sorloth a chance in his best position rather than out wide.
Roy is pretty wedded to 44 ******* 2 as it where it'll be sorloth coming on for benteke and playing in wilfs spot until he's back.
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Old 21-02-2018, 08:01 PM
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Roy is pretty wedded to 44 ******* 2 as it where it'll be sorloth coming on for benteke and playing in wilfs spot until he's back.
Yep, I think so. It will be interesting to see if Benteke and Sorloth can play effectively together up front given they are both target men. Hopefully Sorloth is much more mobile though.
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i laugh at some of the comments as people were suggesting Shane Long in the January window...a hard working player who has scored something like 2 goals in the last 12 months.
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i laugh at some of the comments as people were suggesting Shane Long in the January window...a hard working player who has scored something like 2 goals in the last 12 months.
One of which was against us
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Old 21-02-2018, 10:01 PM
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To be fair, his record for a different team does not show you how good a fit he would be for us. For what it's worth, I think he would have been a good and affordable option.
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Old 21-02-2018, 10:03 PM
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Look back at Benteke's assists - they stretch the meaning in many cases. The one at Burnley at home is a good example.

I'd give Benteke one or two more chances but if he doesn't finally deliver then time to drop him and give Sorloth a chance in his best position rather than out wide.
I would play them both through the middle, Zaha has been around half as productive this season compared to last allowing for the time he has not played. Think getting him back out wide and giving him and Townsend 2 good targets in the middle is the way forward when possible.
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Old 21-02-2018, 10:12 PM
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I would play them both through the middle, Zaha has been around half as productive this season compared to last allowing for the time he has not played. Think getting him back out wide and giving him and Townsend 2 good targets in the middle is the way forward when possible.
We may have no choice but it might not be an ideal match.

As for Zaha, I'm surprised you say that as I think he's been superb this season. He's gone up a level.
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Old 21-02-2018, 10:22 PM
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We may have no choice but it might not be an ideal match.

As for Zaha, I'm surprised you say that as I think he's been superb this season. He's gone up a level.
In some respects he has but last year he finished with 7 goals and 9 assists, and whilst unlucky not be credited with a couple of assists this season he has 4 goals and just the 1 assist. Think some of that is down to missing attacking options around him, and he was passing the ball more last season than this.

Think if we have 2 real threats central for him to use as decoy or to cross to, as well as an attacking option on the other side we will become far more potent as an attacking force an that will benefit Wilf further.
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Old 21-02-2018, 10:30 PM
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In some respects he has but last year he finished with 7 goals and 9 assists, and whilst unlucky not be credited with a couple of assists this season he has 4 goals and just the 1 assist. Think some of that is down to missing attacking options around him, and he was passing the ball more last season than this.

Think if we have 2 real threats central for him to use as decoy or to cross to, as well as an attacking option on the other side we will become far more potent as an attacking force an that will benefit Wilf further.
I prefer Wilf on the right so I think that will work well anyway.

I don't believe Wilf has one assist. I can think of three off the top of my head - Bournemouth, Watford and Arsenal. If Benteke had his shooting boots this season then zaha would have had many more as well.
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Old 21-02-2018, 11:47 PM
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Yes, do you have a point?

I see you credited Townsend in a post further down - apologies.
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I think it will be Sørloth and Benteke in a 4-4-2 when Zaha is back with Sørloth doing the no.10 role as he is more mobile.
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Roy is pretty wedded to 44 ******* 2 as it where it'll be sorloth coming on for benteke and playing in wilfs spot until he's back.
With our lack of GK's we could end applying 4-4-3
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i laugh at some of the comments as people were suggesting Shane Long in the January window...a hard working player who has scored something like 2 goals in the last 12 months.
As opposed to a non-hard working player who has scored two goals in the last ten months. It's a close competition. If Sorloth plays well in the next few matches then once Wilf returns Benteke will surely get a long overdue place on the bench.
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My garden wall is more mobile than Benteke
Think you might need to get a structural engineer in to have a look at that
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As opposed to a non-hard working player who has scored two goals in the last ten months. It's a close competition. If Sorloth plays well in the next few matches then once Wilf returns Benteke will surely get a long overdue place on the bench.
Solorth on debut made a fantastic header which brought a smart save from the Everton keeper. Heading is the strongest side of Benteke's game, if he is not even going to be the best header of the ball at the club, you do start to wonder how long he is going to remain in the starting XI
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I would play them both through the middle, Zaha has been around half as productive this season compared to last allowing for the time he has not played. Think getting him back out wide and giving him and Townsend 2 good targets in the middle is the way forward when possible.
We`d be overun in the middle by most sides.
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Solorth on debut made a fantastic header which brought a smart save from the Everton keeper. Heading is the strongest side of Benteke's game, if he is not even going to be the best header of the ball at the club, you do start to wonder how long he is going to remain in the starting XI
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I prefer Wilf on the right so I think that will work well anyway.

I don't believe Wilf has one assist. I can think of three off the top of my head - Bournemouth, Watford and Arsenal. If Benteke had his shooting boots this season then zaha would have had many more as well.
He wasn't given them as assists as there were slight reflections or touches from defenders trying to cut out crosses. Another reason for ignoring stats
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Based on one header Solorth is a better header of the ball than Benteke.
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Indeed, he looked a much better player the whole game. Bettered Benteke all day.
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To be fair, his record for a different team does not show you how good a fit he would be for us. For what it's worth, I think he would have been a good and affordable option.
How much would he have cost? Fee and wages.
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