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Old 11-01-2017, 10:24 PM
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Bearing in mind that, for half a season, a back 4 of Ward-Delaney-Dann-Kelly was one of the best in the league, maybe it isn't the defenders (as such) that is the problem.....
Don't remember Kelly being part of a good defence. Do remember Mariappa being part of one though
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:29 PM
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Joel is a very good premier league right back and has all the credentials. He just has a shocker every 5 games and people on here jump on it. If you look at the better fullbacks in the league they have these games also. The modern day full back has completely changed. They are asked to do much more. Plus the talent they are battling is improving all the time. Joel has developed very well over the years and we have been lucky to have him.

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I would expect Ward to thrive under SA as said manager won't ask him to do things he clearly isn't good at and will ensure he has fair and reasonable support and protection. Even Tony Adams admitted that if exposed he was absolutely shocking. As part of a proper unit with everyone fully aware of their jobs and responsibilities, ofcourse, he was immense.
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:41 PM
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Don't remember Kelly being part of a good defence. Do remember Mariappa being part of one though
Apologies, I acknowledge my mistake. The point remains that, in my opinion, our defensive frailties are more about how we are set up in front of the back four than the back four themselves.
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Anyone think we could be buying a new right back to move Ward to the midfield? - Where he played for Pompey.
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Old 11-01-2017, 11:59 PM
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Have said it before, Ward with Kelly as a back-up is more than good enough for us at the moment.

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Anyone think we could be buying a new right back to move Ward to the midfield? - Where he played for Pompey.
Or if we switch to a back 3 could he come inside as per Azpilicueta at Chelsea?

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Ward played everywhere for Pompy, but a friend who used to watch Pompy quite a lot said he was a cracking centre back (at that level)
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Another squad player, our transfer policy is sure lunacy, you either pick players with potential or players with experience of your current level. Jenkinson is just cover ...
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Another squad player, our transfer policy is sure lunacy, you either pick players with potential or players with experience of your current level. Jenkinson is just cover ...
I doubt it. He has played under BFS before. Can't see him coming here without being promised regular football.
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My old manager (from work) took Jenkinson on loan from Charlton when he was manager of Eastbourne Borough. Said that loan was sort of the making for him as when he went back he went straight into the Charlton side. He also told me he was always going to be Premier League quality and didn't have any bad words to say about him, in fact was quite complimentary as they both still keep in touch.

Sadly I don't keep in touch with my old manager anymore so I'd have no way of finding out whether he knows if this is close or not.
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I don't think so. We have the poorest full back partnership in the premier league. Our midfield gets very little support going forward from the full backs and their passing / control is so poor that it puts us in trouble. I think it would be great to get a new right back and left back. Kelly only has 6 months left on his contract so it would be best to get a small fee from a championship team for him now, if we sign Jenkinson and another CB.
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I can't remember much about him if I'm honest, but if he has the work rate and defensive ability as Joel Ward, but can pass the ball and keep possession better, then he is an upgrade imo, and at a reasonable price. That's not having a go at JW, but he's lost the ball too cheaply and too often over the last 12 months and at the very least needs some competition.
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I can't remember much about him if I'm honest, but if he has the work rate and defensive ability as Joel Ward, but can pass the ball and keep possession better, then he is an upgrade imo, and at a reasonable price. That's not having a go at JW, but he's lost the ball too cheaply and too often over the last 12 months and at the very least needs some competition.
Agree with that. I tend to think quite a few players in the squad don't feel challenged enough so they get into a comfort zone. Cabaye under Pardew, Puncheon, Zaha last season as well as Bolasie, Townsend this season, even Pape and Joel as you say, not one of those players you could say could be replaced. I fear Benteke of late is almost the same since Wickham's injury and Remy just hasn't had enough to keep him on his toes. The quality of our squad depth is virtually non-existent.
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I don't think so. We have the poorest full back partnership in the premier league. Our midfield gets very little support going forward from the full backs and their passing / control is so poor that it puts us in trouble. I think it would be great to get a new right back and left back. Kelly only has 6 months left on his contract so it would be best to get a small fee from a championship team for him now, if we sign Jenkinson and another CB.
I thought Kelly was signed as a CB? He's only covering at LB as we're so short on numbers at the back.
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