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Old 12-01-2017, 08:46 AM
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I thought Kelly was signed as a CB? He's only covering at LB as we're so short on numbers at the back.
Maybe CB was the plan when he came through the Liverpool youth system but most of the games he has played for Liverpool and us have been at RB.
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Ward at CB as part of a back 3 could work. But like Bruce used to do with Mullins. His pace has gone but he's solid enough in the air. Both him and Kelly are weak in the tackle however. Love to see one of them clean out a player early doors in a game and immediately give the crowd something to get stuck into.
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:08 AM
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Ward at CB as part of a back 3 could work. But like Bruce used to do with Mullins. His pace has gone but he's solid enough in the air. Both him and Kelly are weak in the tackle however. Love to see one of them clean out a player early doors in a game and immediately give the crowd something to get stuck into.
Ward in a back 3 would work really well, as he would be considered mobile for a CB.
However GF idea that he could play as a wing back is laughable.
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Ward at CB as part of a back 3 could work. But like Bruce used to do with Mullins. His pace has gone but he's solid enough in the air. Both him and Kelly are weak in the tackle however. Love to see one of them clean out a player early doors in a game and immediately give the crowd something to get stuck into.
He did something along these lines during the Swansea second half when we briefly threatened and it certainly got the crowd up and on their feet. At the time I recall thinking why were we not up for it like this from the start.

Joel has been and still is a great Palace player but my view on it is our full backs are our biggest weakness and are frequently targeted by the opposition. That's not to say he won't still play a vital role at times but he often looks tired so any genuine competition at RB has to be welcomed.
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Have to remember, Ward has played almost every minute of every premier league game that we have had over recent years, and very rarely gets rested like other defenders have. What should we expect?
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Ward is a fair player.

Jenkinson, likewise, a big Sam stalwart at West Ham, someone he knows and trusts.

Perhaps, and it's risky, Ward will cover left back till the summer with Jenkinson right back.

Delaney/Dann/Tomkins battling it out for the 2 centre backs slots and Kelly er, on the bench!

For 3 million give or take, its a bargain.
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Ward in a back 3 would work really well, as he would be considered mobile for a CB.........
Definitely think Ward is an option and for a FB he is generally above average in the air. There is a 'BUT' though. He has on numerous occasions been caught out on the far post with attackers coming in behind him without him jumping. Weird. Playing in a 3 will see him in that situation more often and he has to tighten that up but otherwise I would expect him to do OK.

Joel seems to be attracting a lot of stick now but TBH the players covering the other 3 defensive positions have all been in far worse form and made the more costly mistakes.

I think BFS summed it up nicely today. Today we only have 3CBs and 2 FBs (he politely discounted Fryers as too 'inexperienced') which needs to be strengthened to improve and protect against injury. We have to strengthen there. Bringing in a RB and LB as cover will open up options for formation and injury cover plus a chance to improve quality.

I think the strengths of Ward and Jenkinson are different but I am not convinced one is significantly better than the other. If the price rumoured is correct it is a good deal.

I didn't expect a signing this week because we (club and fans) are always over optimistic about getting them over that fuffing line. Doesn't stop me twitching though as we are running into weeks with 2 games with cups etc.
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This would be a good solid signing he was excellent under Sam at Wes ham,fell out of favour big time at Arsenal and was dropped as his confidence was so low after a few really bad performances...not good enough for a top six club but would think he would be a good adiittion for any other club..
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When does he have to be registered to be eligible for West Ham?
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Probably about the last position we actually need though, maybe second to right midfield.

Keeper... yep, that would be good

Left back... oh my **** yes... urgent and needs addressing in this window

Center back... not urgent but if the right player was there yes, an upgrade wouldn't hurt

Right midfield zaha and Townsend

Left midfield.. yes please, squad would be much stronger this season with an upgrade

Center midfield..not urgent but upgrades welcome

Strikers.. Campbell starting regularly wouldn't be enough goals despite effort. Remy is questionable fitness, that leave almost all hope on benteke with wickham out. We'd be safer with more

Right back... ward, Tomkins amd Kelly is ok at rb. Last place we need unless ward is destined to be lb due lack of players available
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Jenkinson is coming back from a serious injury and would need to be eased in slowly. We just can't afford to do this because the next 8-10 games are crucial.
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I know that is probably a common view, but actually, a lot of our problems are with the centre mid area. Not necessarily needing urgent buys perhaps but something needs to change there.

Not enough mobility at times, not enough box to box, yet not enough cover for the defence either. The pairings neither seem to support the attack regualrly yet are often wide open on the counter. Odd.
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Seems an odd signing given our squads strengths/weaknesses - I wonder who his agent is??
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