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Old 05-01-2017, 09:35 AM
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To pick a single issue that has had the biggest impact, IMO...

...selling Jedinak when the club captain had no great desire to leave.

In the past 5 years or so, we seemed to understand that keeping leaders in the squad was beneficial to us (McCarthy & Speroni), so to get rid in order to change the 'culture' or our style of play was a break from this. And... a terrible idea.

Agree with a lot of the other themes raised here though.
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Old 05-01-2017, 09:45 AM
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It's pretty simple we've still mostly got a championship standard defence and with the failure to replace Jedi we've now got a much smaller team so we don't bully people at set pieces which is why we concede so many. Also our full backs do not offer width or pace, are poor going forward because they can't pass and/or get stopped by the opposition. Plus we don't have Yala/Soares ability to run the ball up the pitch at pace anymore which relived the pressure on a technically inferior defence.
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By the way we have had some awful decisions go against us the dive from Snodgrass was a bad one even the Swansea game two sure pens were waved away this is not an excuse it just adds to the frustration of both players and fans.
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Injuries and bad officials have certainly played their part, more than some fans would like to admit.

Palace kept a clean sheet against Southampton but since that improved defensive performance they have not been able to play with the same line-up due to injuries.

Being forced to play players when not 100% fit due to having no other players available explains why Palace have run out of steam late on in games and they have been punished by conceding so many late goals.
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This is what's gone wrong for me this season

Jedinak, Gayle sold
Worse home kit in living memory , the arrogance of the chairman saying you can only do so much with stripes.
Usual late sending out of season tickets and the new card readers not tested so usual queues on the first day of the season.
Usual poor colour printing on season ticket wallets , orange and blue this season compared with purple last season .
Manager not sacked earlier on
Fan zone lol , the wood would have rotten by now
Advertising boards blocking the view for people
The late arriving floodlights and the club not listening to people regarding the light show .
Getting rid of a good stadium announcer and replacing him with , well not sure with to be honest.
Youth players on the bench but not getting on the pitch , instead we see the dross Mutch.
Sold out games with loads of empty seats
Enjoy the game
Lack of any plans for the train strike against Manchester United
Membership packs late in going out , no replies , club blaming everyone but themselves for the delays .
Giving away fans a better experience at Selhurst than they would get at their normal 'home' ground .



It's all created an atmosphere of 'couldn't care less ' from the club

Added to the usual historical problems of
No replies from the club when you email them
Piss poor away coach service STILL
Premium rate Box office number STILL
Buying tickets online when games aren't on sale when they are meant to be , unable to add certain number of tickets when they go on general sale
Club shop website showing empty pages


As people have said previously the club hasn't changed it's taken the premier league and we have nothing to show from it. Club needs to start to listen to its customers before they coming cap in hand to us in 2017/18 in the championship when crowds drop by 5k a game.


Well there's one or two good ones there, but seriously there a lot of un-necessary angst, can't imagine what it must be like to live with this poster. Blaming CPFC for lack of plan for train strike! Jesus how long before Southern use that one "shit service today because Driver is a pissed off Palace fan"
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It's pretty simple we've still mostly got a championship standard defence and with the failure to replace Jedi we've now got a much smaller team so we don't bully people at set pieces which is why we concede so many. Also our full backs do not offer width or pace, are poor going forward because they can't pass and/or get stopped by the opposition. Plus we don't have Yala/Soares ability to run the ball up the pitch at pace anymore which relived the pressure on a technically inferior defence.
You hit the nail on the head there!
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Still amazed how many people don't identify the inability to play a final ball or not lose it with a suicidal pass as being a possible reason why we're losing week after week against teams that, every one, passes and moves better than us. Maybe it's indicative of the entire culture of this club and why we look sunk again...
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All of it represents a change in the club that has coincedentally coincided with the downturn in our form. Feels like we've rested on our laurels and we're paying the price for it.
No. This thread is just an excuse for a good moan justified or otherwise.
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Injuries and bad officials have certainly played their part, more than some fans would like to admit.

Palace kept a clean sheet against Southampton but since that improved defensive performance they have not been able to play with the same line-up due to injuries.

Being forced to play players when not 100% fit due to having no other players available explains why Palace have run out of steam late on in games and they have been punished by conceding so many late goals.
This doesn't explain why we have been diabolical for one whole year. You don't seem to get this. Your point would be valid if we were performing this badly over a shorter period. But for 50 games we've been garbage.

That is not down to injuries and poor refs. It's down to rank bad management. All our problems stem from that:

A. Imbalanced squad.
B. Unfit squad - our fitness levels have been lower for a long time.
C. Ridiculous in-game management from Pardew which has cost us so many points.
D. Decisions to sell most of our leaders, notably Jedi and Murray.
E. Lined to point A, failure to have more than 1 left back in the squad.
F. Several pointless signings that have made zero impact.

I'd argue that all of these issues, which are at the root cause of why we are struggling so badly, are down to Pardew, with Parish having to take some responsibility too but nowhere near Pardew.
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Bottom line is we have possibly 3/4 premier league players that cut it in this league,sooner everybody gets that and the fact we need 200 mil injected into this team,the sooner we can move forward.
Of course thats not going to happen,so get ready for championship football.
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This doesn't explain why we have been diabolical for one whole year. You don't seem to get this. Your point would be valid if we were performing this badly over a shorter period. But for 50 games we've been garbage.

That is not down to injuries and poor refs. It's down to rank bad management. All our problems stem from that:

A. Imbalanced squad.
B. Unfit squad - our fitness levels have been lower for a long time.
C. Ridiculous in-game management from Pardew which has cost us so many points.
D. Decisions to sell most of our leaders, notably Jedi and Murray.
E. Lined to point A, failure to have more than 1 left back in the squad.
F. Several pointless signings that have made zero impact.

I'd argue that all of these issues, which are at the root cause of why we are struggling so badly, are down to Pardew, with Parish having to take some responsibility too but nowhere near Pardew.
100% agree with all the points except Parish
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This doesn't explain why we have been diabolical for one whole year. You don't seem to get this. Your point would be valid if we were performing this badly over a shorter period. But for 50 games we've been garbage.

That is not down to injuries and poor refs. It's down to rank bad management. All our problems stem from that:

A. Imbalanced squad.
B. Unfit squad - our fitness levels have been lower for a long time.
C. Ridiculous in-game management from Pardew which has cost us so many points.
D. Decisions to sell most of our leaders, notably Jedi and Murray.
E. Lined to point A, failure to have more than 1 left back in the squad.
F. Several pointless signings that have made zero impact.

I'd argue that all of these issues, which are at the root cause of why we are struggling so badly, are down to Pardew, with Parish having to take some responsibility too but nowhere near Pardew.
While Glenn Murray was and is a favorite of mine, I understood the "youth movement," as I thought it was. But, look at Pardew's history in signings... he's in love with the idea of a 6-foot-2 more-physical forward. With Papiss Cisse and Moussa Sissoko, he got it largely right. Otherwise, not so good. So, why anyone would think the forwards he brought in would be superstars I have no idea. Parish giving free rein to Pardew was an overreaction to the Pulis exodus, where Tony claimed he wanted certain players and Parish said no. That started the whole thing. What we ended up with was an emotional decision bringing in a manager with limited skill in player assessment.

Fitness - exactly right. Go back and look since the beginning of the 2015-16 season how many goals we've given up in the last 5 minutes of halves or in stoppage time. Ridiculous.

Won't Murray find it ironic next season, if things continue going as they are, that he is in the Premier League and we are not?

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18 games left to turn things around not just one game to save ourselves.

You would never think this the way that some fans are forever predicting doom and gloom and certain relegation, not to mention their constant whining and moaning to back up their negativity.

It's not over until it's over and this season is far from over as far as Palace are concerned.
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What's gone wrong 2016/17 - point the finger

Fitness and Discipline are the main issues. Lack of Squad Depth in the Defence and also no Commanding Defence midfielder protecting the back four but then what's the point when we don't have the Fitness or Discipline.

Hopefully BFS will sort the above out.

Pardew really did f*** the team up. Seriously what the hell was he doing.

Very Angry

If we are going down let's go down with at least a fight.

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This is what's gone wrong for me this season

Usual poor colour printing on season ticket wallets , orange and blue this season compared with purple last season .
I reckon it's definitely this.
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