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Old 19-11-2017, 06:18 AM
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Is it time for Video Replays?

Personally I wasnít in favour of this idea originally but after watching the Rugby highlights today & seeing how thoroughly every Try is reviewed, Iíve started to wonder if now might be the right time to drag football in line with most other mainstream sports?

With todayís outrageous dive & Kompany escaping a blatant red card itís surely in the best interests of fairness to stop cheating & injustice once & for all. It would also help referees to bring a moment of clarity to any situation where they are under immense pressure to make the right decision on the spot.

Video replays are widely used in almost all other mainstream sports like Cricket, Tennis, Rugby & the NFL & have actually enhanced the overall fan experience rather than detracted from it. Can you imagine the fans waiting nervously for the penalty decision as itís reviewed upstairs with the heartbeat sound pumping out of the speakers in the ground & the final decision being displayed on the scoreboard?
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Old 19-11-2017, 07:41 AM
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I've always been in favour. With the stakes involved, interpreting the rules should not be a subjective art form.

The Premier League has an audience in the hundreds of millions. Sky packs grounds with cameras and will replay stuff to death to judge the decision.

The info is readily available but the current state off affairs is that there are several hundred million with better access to near-real time information than the bloke actually having to make the decision.

This makes no sense.
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no. video refereeing ruins football.
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no. video refereeing ruins football.
So is diving..
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no. video refereeing ruins football.
Bit of a generalisation on something that has yet to be introduced. Care to elaborate?
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So is diving..
and here's a case-in-point.

Roy was right in his post match comments. This may be referred to the diving panel but so what?

Lets assume this is referred: The irony is that the panel will review the incident with video evidence. If they find it was a dive, it means Everton gained an advantage by cheating. They are also admitting the referee made a mistake. This mistake meant Everton scored a goal and we probably lost two points as a consequence.

If Niasse, is sanctioned , it doesn't change either the decision - now shown as incorrect based upon a retroactive review of video evidence - nor will it effect the result. All this does is benefit Everton's next opponent. The cheated party gets (us in this case) ****ed both ends up. We don't get the goal or the points back.

Given such a review is based upon a review of video evidence would it not make more sense to review it in real time and give the ref a chance to make the correct decision at the time? This negates the need for rather pointless panel and ensures that the punishment fits the crime.

The current system is just barking mad.
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Bit of a generalisation on something that has yet to be introduced. Care to elaborate?
If it were allowed generally then if would stop the flow of the game.

Allow it to review decisions on goals, red cards and penalties.

The video ref could also be allowed to bring it back 10-15 seconds if the referee misses something that is clearcut.
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If it were allowed generally then if would stop the flow of the game.

Allow it to review decisions on goals, red cards and penalties.

The video ref could also be allowed to bring it back 10-15 seconds if the referee misses something that is clearcut.
I agree with this. However it's complete absence is just stupid. Remember the outcry over goal line technology? Haven't noticed that being obtrusive.

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I agree with this. However it's complete absence is just stupid. Remember the outcry over goal line technology? Haven't noticed that being obtrusive.
Have noticed that the right decision has been made every time though.
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If it were allowed generally then if would stop the flow of the game.

Allow it to review decisions on goals, red cards and penalties.

The video ref could also be allowed to bring it back 10-15 seconds if the referee misses something that is clearcut.
I canít see why it canít be extended to all cards yellow or red. Sometimes a yellow is issued instead of a straight red like the Kompany one yesterday. Then there would be no need for retrospective action which doesnít affect the result of the game.

Anyone whoís been to cricket or Rugby will know itís quite exciting when you get to see the incident being reviewed on the big screen before a final decision has been made. It wouldnít slow the game down that much but would stop players diving for penalties.

If this was in place yesterday then Man City would of played 88 minutes of their game with 10 men & Niasse would of been booked for diving instead of being awarded a penalty.
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Goal line technology does not disrupt the flow of the game and is completely unobtrusive. A "Video ref" would have a greater impact on this and I don't think it adheres itself to this particular sport where stoppages in play are rare.

Notwithstanding this, my own view is that it is the discussions created by different interpretations of incidences that appeals to supporters in some masochistic way! It would be a further sanitisation of the sport and we would have very little to talk about during the week. As for injustices being eradicated, the cynic in me believes that it would have absolutely zero effect on the underlying corruption in the sport in the same way that FFP has made no difference.
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I canít see why it canít be extended to all cards yellow or red. Sometimes a yellow is issued instead of a straight red like the Kompany one yesterday. Then there would be no need for retrospective action which doesnít affect the result of the game.

Anyone whoís been to cricket or Rugby will know itís quite exciting when you get to see the incident being reviewed on the big screen before a final decision has been made. It wouldnít slow the game down that much but would stop players diving for penalties.

If this was in place yesterday then Man City would of played 88 minutes of their game with 10 men & Niasse would of been booked for diving instead of being awarded a penalty.
Would he though? The bottom line is that the Video ref would surely have to be there to support the match officials and you could just about argue that there was the slightest contact on Niasse which justified the ref's decision. The old fallback on "interpretation" of an incident would still be available to incompetent and corrupt officials and I suspect it would be an extremely rare event were a referee to change his original decision and allow his overall authority to be undermined.
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