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Dougie is a fan of Rodriguez. However thereís an issue bringing in a player who has been accused of racism when our squad contains a lot of black players. Tricky one. Based on ability, Iíd have him all day long.

Good point. Plus a dodgy injury record. On the basis of that, itís a no from me. Our team spirit and unity is our biggest strength.
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Good point. Plus a dodgy injury record. On the basis of that, it’s a no from me. Our team spirit and unity is our biggest strength.
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No to Dawson not tall enough and generally not good enough. Would have to be really cheap, strikes me as a player in decline. Rather buy Fosu-Mensah
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Dougie is a fan of Rodriguez. However thereís an issue bringing in a player who has been accused of racism when our squad contains a lot of black players. Tricky one. Based on ability, Iíd have him all day long.
I see what you mean but he was found not guilty of that accusation. Both players should emerge from that incident with their reputations unblemished (but as we saw with the Burnley fans with Bong on Saturday, that won't necessarily happen).
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Iím pretty non plus about Rodriguez also.
He was a good player just injuries have ravaged him and for the money there are younger hungrier players out there. Also his distinct lack of goals. Scoring a nicely worked team goal ever 8 games doesnít do it for me.
Of course it does, because you prefer the 3 goals a season Benteke style.
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Precisely.
Not that long ago he was talked about as an England player, and if some people feel Dawson cant add something extra that would be to Palace's benefit then we must be blessed with talent. Unfortunately Scott Dann may never return as before, Delaney is finished, Kelly after years at the club is still unable to establish a regular spot surely says something. Then Jach does not even impress at under 23 level must tell us something of what we have at our disposal, oh lets not forget how injury prone Tomkins AND Sakho can be.
We talk about Dawson being hard/dirty yet come the summer we will find he will be in demand for sure, and we will look back and regret we did not bring in a "winner" as opposed to be seen by many as just dirty. We often talk about some of our best CB's and names like Cannon, Gilbert, Young and a few others like John McCormack for example crop up and i saw them all play, believe me they were no angels when it came to tackling.
IF and it is a big IF, Roy decides to go with something new next season, say 3-5-2 then a back Three of Dawson-Tomkins-Sakho or just having One of them to call on as back up, would make us a formidable defensive unit to build from.
That's far too rational and sensible for the BBS to understand, plus there's no where near enough profanity in it to enforce your point. Must do better!
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Old 02-05-2018, 03:04 PM
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Precisely.
Not that long ago he was talked about as an England player, and if some people feel Dawson cant add something extra that would be to Palace's benefit then we must be blessed with talent. Unfortunately Scott Dann may never return as before, Delaney is finished, Kelly after years at the club is still unable to establish a regular spot surely says something. Then Jach does not even impress at under 23 level must tell us something of what we have at our disposal, oh lets not forget how injury prone Tomkins AND Sakho can be.
We talk about Dawson being hard/dirty yet come the summer we will find he will be in demand for sure, and we will look back and regret we did not bring in a "winner" as opposed to be seen by many as just dirty. We often talk about some of our best CB's and names like Cannon, Gilbert, Young and a few others like John McCormack for example crop up and i saw them all play, believe me they were no angels when it came to tackling.
IF and it is a big IF, Roy decides to go with something new next season, say 3-5-2 then a back Three of Dawson-Tomkins-Sakho or just having One of them to call on as back up, would make us a formidable defensive unit to build from.
Dawson didn't tackle Speroni... the **** is a coward... ******* dived at Newcastle Saturday AND pretended to be injured. The guy is gutless coward. I'd hate to see him in our shirt.
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Dawson didn't tackle Speroni... the **** is a coward... ******* dived at Newcastle Saturday AND pretended to be injured. The guy is gutless coward. I'd hate to see him in our shirt.
That is very harsh "mushroom" are you saying that you have not seen a mistimed or possibly a bad tackle happen? or one committed by a Palace player on an opposition player, or see players dive to win free kicks? it happens all the time.
I accept you are not a fan and would not want to see him join Palace as it is your view, but in my opinion he would add a lot to whoever he joins in the summer, and i certainly would not say No if that was Palace and dont be surprised if that was to happen.
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I will remember that in the future.
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Dougie is a fan of Rodriguez. However thereís an issue bringing in a player who has been accused of racism when our squad contains a lot of black players. Tricky one. Based on ability, Iíd have him all day long.
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Precisely.
Not that long ago he was talked about as an England player, and if some people feel Dawson cant add something extra that would be to Palace's benefit then we must be blessed with talent. Unfortunately Scott Dann may never return as before, Delaney is finished, Kelly after years at the club is still unable to establish a regular spot surely says something. Then Jach does not even impress at under 23 level must tell us something of what we have at our disposal, oh lets not forget how injury prone Tomkins AND Sakho can be.
We talk about Dawson being hard/dirty yet come the summer we will find he will be in demand for sure, and we will look back and regret we did not bring in a "winner" as opposed to be seen by many as just dirty. We often talk about some of our best CB's and names like Cannon, Gilbert, Young and a few others like John McCormack for example crop up and i saw them all play, believe me they were no angels when it came to tackling.
IF and it is a big IF, Roy decides to go with something new next season, say 3-5-2 then a back Three of Dawson-Tomkins-Sakho or just having One of them to call on as back up, would make us a formidable defensive unit to build from.
Cannon, Gilbert and Young played in a totally different era. As did the likes of Norman Hunter, Jackie Charlton, Ron Harris, Tommy Smith and John McCormick. Even back then, hard tackles, often from behind, were part and parcel of the game, but I don't remember an elbow-cum-forearm-smash being part of the repertoire (although the odd right hook after a fearsome tackle sometimes was). Even over-the-top tackles, (© Norman Hunter on John Craven) were often only punished with a "name-taking). Oh, and you forgot Roger Hynd - hard as nails, but FAIR.

Now thankfully such things are a relic of the past. As is Craig Dawson. He has form. He can piss off to WWF or something. The c*nt. You don't need to be a thug to be an enforcer.
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That is very harsh "mushroom" are you saying that you have not seen a mistimed or possibly a bad tackle happen? or one committed by a Palace player on an opposition player, or see players dive to win free kicks? it happens all the time.
I accept you are not a fan and would not want to see him join Palace as it is your view, but in my opinion he would add a lot to whoever he joins in the summer, and i certainly would not say No if that was Palace and dont be surprised if that was to happen.
I've seen loads of mistimed and bad tackles by Palace players "LuieJack"... probably 100's. I've never seen a player of ours smash his elbow in to the eye socket of a keeper at a corner. If I did see one of our players do that... i'd think they were a bit of a ****.
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I know. Is still a concern though within the club. Believe it or not.
He wasn’t found innocent. The case was not proven. The experts employed to determine what was actually said couldn’t conclude either way. So basically no one knows. But this is very different from Rodriguez definitely didn’t do it or even probably didn’t do it. It is no clue whether he did or not.

Consequently the club should be concerned. If they were looking to sign him and were not considering this I’d be worried. If they are then it shows the club’s policies on issues like this have improved from the time when we signed David Goodwillie on loan.
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