Home | Forums | Gallery | Twitter
 
CPFC BBS  

Go Back   CPFC BBS Crystal Palace Football Club General Palace Discussion

Notices

General Palace Discussion General Palace talk - please keep transfer talk in the transfer forum.

View Poll Results: MoM
Hennessey 5 1.04%
Fosu-Mensah ** 27 5.64%
Dann 3 0.63%
Riedewald 2 0.42%
Ward 1 0.21%
Milivojevic * 0 0%
Puncheon 7 1.46%
van Aanholt 2 0.42%
Loftus-Cheek 405 84.55%
Zaha 20 4.18%
Benteke 1 0.21%
Townsend * 5 1.04%
Tomkins ** 1 0.21%
Voters: 479. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #121  
Old 12-08-2017, 06:52 PM
Jim Cannon's Avatar
Jim Cannon Jim Cannon is offline
I DON'T look like SJ
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Wapping
Age: 48
Posts: 44,249
Rep Power: 21474851
Jim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by mylona View Post
Agreed. I expected more from him. Worst debut for years. Should have been substituted.
It was as though they got the number wrong when Fosu Mensah went off!
Seriously though, Jairo had a bad day today but in fairness to him the team had a shocker and hopefully he can put this behind him
Reply With Quote
  #122  
Old 12-08-2017, 06:53 PM
davemorris04's Avatar
davemorris04 davemorris04 is offline
I'm just cheese
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kent
Age: 32
Posts: 6,711
Rep Power: 21474849
davemorris04 Sam the man is heredavemorris04 Sam the man is heredavemorris04 Sam the man is heredavemorris04 Sam the man is heredavemorris04 Sam the man is heredavemorris04 Sam the man is heredavemorris04 Sam the man is heredavemorris04 Sam the man is heredavemorris04 Sam the man is heredavemorris04 Sam the man is heredavemorris04 Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neckinger Eagle View Post
The thought has crossed my mind that it wasn't FDB who made Punch captain, in the same way that he didn't give Delaney and Williams new contracts.
Good point, these awful decisions must stop. We cannot keep firefighting like this or sooner or later it will catch up with us just all all the other clubs who continually flirt with the relegation zone.
__________________
A club that plays for money is a club worth nothing.
Reply With Quote
  #123  
Old 12-08-2017, 06:53 PM
Jim Cannon's Avatar
Jim Cannon Jim Cannon is offline
I DON'T look like SJ
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Wapping
Age: 48
Posts: 44,249
Rep Power: 21474851
Jim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glazier69 View Post
Not the new Valerian Ishmael I hope !
Wash your mouth out, one was bad enough. Carl Leaburn still sends him xmas cards I heard
Reply With Quote
  #124  
Old 12-08-2017, 06:55 PM
adrenalin john's Avatar
adrenalin john adrenalin john is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: out between inns
Age: 52
Posts: 28,384
Rep Power: 21474851
adrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is here
I genuinely thought de Boer knew what he was doing and that we would play half-decent football.

Today reminded me of Man U under Van Dull, except without the defense solidity or ability to pass.

Somehow we have managed to play a system that blunts our attack and weakens our defensive and isn't even attractive to watch.

I didn't expect miracles overnight but I also didn't expect omnishambles. Only one match but that was genuinely worrying, there wasn't a single positive to take from it.
__________________
please see above
Reply With Quote
  #125  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:01 PM
sideburns7 sideburns7 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Age: 51
Posts: 282
Rep Power: 3309287
sideburns7 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minesideburns7 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minesideburns7 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minesideburns7 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minesideburns7 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minesideburns7 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minesideburns7 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minesideburns7 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minesideburns7 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minesideburns7 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minesideburns7 : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Welcome back super Neil Warnock
Reply With Quote
  #126  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:05 PM
Se9 eagles Se9 eagles is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Age: 54
Posts: 2,196
Rep Power: 18291058
Se9 eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSe9 eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSe9 eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSe9 eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSe9 eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSe9 eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSe9 eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSe9 eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSe9 eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSe9 eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSe9 eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
A shameful and disgraceful performance.The loan players did ok but our players were shocking.Joel Ward must never play for us again ever......
Reply With Quote
  #127  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:05 PM
bodger bodger is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,400
Rep Power: 7963704
bodger came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbodger came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbodger came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbodger came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbodger came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbodger came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbodger came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbodger came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbodger came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbodger came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbodger came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
First real game and fans boo they get 0
The two non Palace players were good PVA 4 was poor as was Ward 5 exrtra point for saving Danns crazy leave. Punch 4 Dann 5 was good and bad. it was like we were playing a friendly and they were playing for real FDB will have learned a fair bit for one RLC is a midfield player Ward is not a wing back and in the premier league you can not pass the ball out from the back with no pressure it requires top class players and quick passing and movement.
Reply With Quote
  #128  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:06 PM
PeteCampbell PeteCampbell is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 36
Rep Power: 0
PeteCampbell is a gunboat in a sea of fearPeteCampbell is a gunboat in a sea of fearPeteCampbell is a gunboat in a sea of fearPeteCampbell is a gunboat in a sea of fearPeteCampbell is a gunboat in a sea of fearPeteCampbell is a gunboat in a sea of fearPeteCampbell is a gunboat in a sea of fearPeteCampbell is a gunboat in a sea of fearPeteCampbell is a gunboat in a sea of fearPeteCampbell is a gunboat in a sea of fearPeteCampbell is a gunboat in a sea of fear
RLC and Fosu-Mensah the only decent ones today
Reply With Quote
  #129  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:07 PM
Santos-er's Avatar
Santos-er Santos-er is offline
Slightly Unstable
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: A spherical nickel-iron alloy in the middle of a nothingness of unknown quantity
Posts: 17,921
Rep Power: 21474853
Santos-er Sam the man is hereSantos-er Sam the man is hereSantos-er Sam the man is hereSantos-er Sam the man is hereSantos-er Sam the man is hereSantos-er Sam the man is hereSantos-er Sam the man is hereSantos-er Sam the man is hereSantos-er Sam the man is hereSantos-er Sam the man is hereSantos-er Sam the man is here
I can only hope that performance showed Parish how much investment is needed in the squad to play the way Fdb wants to. It's a similar situation to when Pardew came in - and we know how that went... if anything this looks like even more of a transition. We simply do not have the players that can think quickly enough or create the space.
Reply With Quote
  #130  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:08 PM
HRP's Avatar
HRP HRP is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,943
Rep Power: 12307943
HRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Can someone add Frazier Campbell to this poll please
Reply With Quote
  #131  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:09 PM
Brett Brett is offline
Binned by Muderators
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Age: 39
Posts: 26,918
Rep Power: 21474854
Brett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is here
Was it as bad as the score line suggests?
__________________
In Soviet Russia, Parish Points claim you.
Reply With Quote
  #132  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:10 PM
HRP's Avatar
HRP HRP is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,943
Rep Power: 12307943
HRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by Santos-er View Post
I can only hope that performance showed Parish how much investment is needed in the squad to play the way Fdb wants to. It's a similar situation to when Pardew came in - and we know how that went... if anything this looks like even more of a transition. We simply do not have the players that can think quickly enough or create the space.
Made even worse against a team who hadn't been in the top flight for 40 years , it's not like it was against an established premier league side
Reply With Quote
  #133  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:10 PM
HRP's Avatar
HRP HRP is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,943
Rep Power: 12307943
HRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietHRP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brett View Post
Was it as bad as the score line suggests?
Worse
Reply With Quote
  #134  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:15 PM
Brett Brett is offline
Binned by Muderators
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Age: 39
Posts: 26,918
Rep Power: 21474854
Brett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is hereBrett Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Santos-er View Post
I can only hope that performance showed Parish how much investment is needed in the squad to play the way Fdb wants to. It's a similar situation to when Pardew came in - and we know how that went... if anything this looks like even more of a transition. We simply do not have the players that can think quickly enough or create the space.
Still two weeks of August wages to save from any new signings.
__________________
In Soviet Russia, Parish Points claim you.
Reply With Quote
  #135  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:15 PM
mean mean is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Orpington
Posts: 529
Rep Power: 1986321
mean : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minemean : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minemean : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minemean : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minemean : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minemean : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minemean : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minemean : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minemean : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minemean : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of minemean : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brett View Post
Was it as bad as the score line suggests?
Afraid so. Confusion on the formation and lack of quality abounds. Asking some players that were just about adequate in a formation they are used to, to play out of position in one they don't, what could possibly go wrong eh!?

The 2 loan players about the only bright points and that is pushing it.
Reply With Quote
  #136  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:17 PM
wrightchipvcfc wrightchipvcfc is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,090
Rep Power: 4320057
wrightchipvcfc is like ice, their footing does betraywrightchipvcfc is like ice, their footing does betraywrightchipvcfc is like ice, their footing does betraywrightchipvcfc is like ice, their footing does betraywrightchipvcfc is like ice, their footing does betraywrightchipvcfc is like ice, their footing does betraywrightchipvcfc is like ice, their footing does betraywrightchipvcfc is like ice, their footing does betraywrightchipvcfc is like ice, their footing does betraywrightchipvcfc is like ice, their footing does betraywrightchipvcfc is like ice, their footing does betray
Wow how bad was that usual story buy near deadline day so have to make do for first few game same as last season WBA and spurs games very weak bench no disrespect to lapedo but would he be near any other prem squad.fdb will now know no easy games in prem not like being involved at Ajax rangers and Barcelona were you can coast most games I reAly prey the players can adapt to fdb system quickly or some are even good enough to play it .only plus for me was loftus cheek the rest if they had just got back from there holidays today they coudnt have been much worse what must parish have made of it especially the defending.
Reply With Quote
  #137  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:22 PM
Nigelbrag Nigelbrag is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 5,899
Rep Power: 19813697
Nigelbrag came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNigelbrag came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNigelbrag came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNigelbrag came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNigelbrag came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNigelbrag came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNigelbrag came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNigelbrag came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNigelbrag came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNigelbrag came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNigelbrag came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
What made me angry was it WAS predictable that we would struggle against a well oiled unit that know how to play to the system they had set out. It was clear to see we are not prepared/ready to carry out what FdB expects, but to lose as easily as we did against a team that we knew we needed to beat, was very frustrating.
It was clear to see there were players struggling to cope with what they were asked to do, and FdB should have realised that at Half Time and should have tweeked the playing system accordingly. This was vital to show the players also the fans that he can make the compromise if the need calls for as it clearly did today, as make no mistake this was a BAD defeat that will need a lot of analysing and working on this week on the training pitch to prepare us for some tough games ahead.
As we saw last season with Sam Allardyce, when taking over the problems he encountered and clearly a change in direction was needed immediately to get the team back on track, and that is what we Must do now.
The other alternative would be is to ask the Board for financial backing into bringing in the FOUR experienced players it will need to implement his ideas into the setup, we now have the exciting Youthful players in place but it will need time to bed them in like Mensah and Riedwald into a Back Three, if rushed is asking for trouble in the weeks ahead.
This is Not a kneejerk reaction to what was an embarrassing defeat, but recognising change is needed as Big Sam did if we are to save our season.
Reply With Quote
  #138  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:28 PM
Neckinger Eagle's Avatar
Neckinger Eagle Neckinger Eagle is offline
Mr Irony
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: The Workhouse
Posts: 4,309
Rep Power: 21474852
Neckinger Eagle Sam the man is hereNeckinger Eagle Sam the man is hereNeckinger Eagle Sam the man is hereNeckinger Eagle Sam the man is hereNeckinger Eagle Sam the man is hereNeckinger Eagle Sam the man is hereNeckinger Eagle Sam the man is hereNeckinger Eagle Sam the man is hereNeckinger Eagle Sam the man is hereNeckinger Eagle Sam the man is hereNeckinger Eagle Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nigelbrag View Post
As we saw last season with Sam Allardyce, when taking over the problems he encountered and clearly a change in direction was needed immediately to get the team back on track, and that is what we Must do now.
I'm a bit confused by this. I wasn't aware that BFS had left us in a position where change was needed. What was needed was more of the same.
__________________
Sent from my Sinclair ZX81 using the keyboard
Reply With Quote
  #139  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:33 PM
Danny boy's Avatar
Danny boy Danny boy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: South London
Posts: 18,001
Rep Power: 21474844
Danny boy Sam the man is hereDanny boy Sam the man is hereDanny boy Sam the man is hereDanny boy Sam the man is hereDanny boy Sam the man is hereDanny boy Sam the man is hereDanny boy Sam the man is hereDanny boy Sam the man is hereDanny boy Sam the man is hereDanny boy Sam the man is hereDanny boy Sam the man is here
de Boer isn't helped by how slow we have been signing players. A RWB and GK should have been bought by now and had time to gel in pre season and nothing looks imminent
Reply With Quote
  #140  
Old 12-08-2017, 07:34 PM
OneSize OneSize is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,047
Rep Power: 1693255
OneSize : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineOneSize : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineOneSize : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineOneSize : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineOneSize : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineOneSize : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineOneSize : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineOneSize : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineOneSize : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineOneSize : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineOneSize : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Only watched the second half so get the feeling i was pretty lucky. It is so obvious that there players had no idea about the formation. I thought that TFM was the best of a bad bunch at the back but honestly Huddersfield could have scored 5/6 in that second half alone.

I can see that advantages to giving Wilf less defending to do but if the wing play is gonna be by the full backs, it makes it incredibly easy to double team Zaha in the middle of the pitch. He is so good at running from deep and when isolated against a full back, this system totally takes that away...and obviously most of our attacking threat. RLC was awesome in midfield but if he is the only one comfortable on the ball, the two in midfield is completely pointless. Lost count of the number of times we lost the ball in our defensive third. Also the massive gap between the striker and the midfield two make it very easy to start attacks (and double up on Zaha without the risk).

If we start with a 343 at Liverpool i truly fear for us.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.