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Old 12-01-2017, 09:20 AM
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Don't know about that. But he has claimed to be a senior lawyer, and clearly is not even a lawyer.
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:28 AM
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I understand that limited (Very) services are running from Caterham to Vic – not calling at East Croydon or Clapham. What’s the deal with these – anybody been on them? Are they a genuine alternative to working at home hunched over a coffee table?


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I understand that limited (Very) services are running from Caterham to Vic – not calling at East Croydon or Clapham. What’s the deal with these – anybody been on them? Are they a genuine alternative to working at home hunched over a coffee table?


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Old 12-01-2017, 09:49 AM
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I understand that limited (Very) services are running from Caterham to Vic – not calling at East Croydon or Clapham. What’s the deal with these – anybody been on them? Are they a genuine alternative to working at home hunched over a coffee table?


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I got the 6.25 from Purley to Victoria yesterday,had the carriage to myself!!
Then on the way home got the 16.08 from Blackfriars to Purley,easy day
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:54 AM
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:03 AM
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:08 AM
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:18 AM
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Guys, my suggestion would be not to post any PM's regardless of permission, put a line under the whole PM business and just refrain from PM'ing each other.

If there continues to be a problem, or something is going on behind the scenes, you can both contact a mod.

Can we please not bring tbis down to attacking people's livelihoods and airing dirty laundry.

Try to get back on topic. Thanks guys.
Excellent post, we're all Palace at the end of the day and wether we see eye to eye or not shouldn't need harsh and intimidating pms.
This thread has definitely rattled some posters up to now and for those who have been rattled wether train crew or commuter we should all respect each others views.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:18 AM
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This letter was in my local paper. What do the drivers on here say re the allegation that DOO has been in use on Thameslink for 25 years?

Although not a solution to the dispute with an efficient bus service ferrying people between Oxted and Sevenoaks things are a lot easier than they were on strike days. Interesting that rail staff at Oxted told us nothing about it! A train driver I spoke to last week privately admitted to me that the argument about ‘safety’ is a bogus one, with Thameslink trains running for 25 years driver only, he told me it is all about job preservation in the face of technology. Don't get me wrong I have no respect for Southern management but the unions are seriously living in the past. Rather like the noticeably red flag waving ASLEF union ‘picket’ at London Bridge, that I have fronted up twice- they are a blast from a past long since departed an anachronism from a dinosaur museum. By the way Sam Gyimah our local MP is still very conspicuous with his total absence, maybe now he is a junior minister he feels too important to get his knees dirty in such mundane matters as helping his constituents who are suffering so much? If so he should think again as a great many people are immensely unimpressed, he needs to seriously step up!
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This letter was in my local paper. What do the drivers on here say re the allegation that DOO has been in use on Thameslink for 25 years?

Although not a solution to the dispute with an efficient bus service ferrying people between Oxted and Sevenoaks things are a lot easier than they were on strike days. Interesting that rail staff at Oxted told us nothing about it! A train driver I spoke to last week privately admitted to me that the argument about ‘safety’ is a bogus one, with Thameslink trains running for 25 years driver only, he told me it is all about job preservation in the face of technology. Don't get me wrong I have no respect for Southern management but the unions are seriously living in the past. Rather like the noticeably red flag waving ASLEF union ‘picket’ at London Bridge, that I have fronted up twice- they are a blast from a past long since departed an anachronism from a dinosaur museum. By the way Sam Gyimah our local MP is still very conspicuous with his total absence, maybe now he is a junior minister he feels too important to get his knees dirty in such mundane matters as helping his constituents who are suffering so much? If so he should think again as a great many people are immensely unimpressed, he needs to seriously step up!
I would say. I don't work for Thameslink, I work for Southern.
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Well this thread has been a fun little read with my morning hangover.

Curious what these PMs are though.

Question for those involved as drivers/PR/imaginary lawyers is there an end in sight or is this Mexican standoff just at the early stages?
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Yep it's going to happen and that's exactly what this strike is about - fear of job loss, and f... everybody else.

So let's make the investment in driverless trains now and prevent these twats from holding us all to ransom ever again.
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This letter was in my local paper. What do the drivers on here say re the allegation that DOO has been in use on Thameslink for 25 years?

Although not a solution to the dispute with an efficient bus service ferrying people between Oxted and Sevenoaks things are a lot easier than they were on strike days. Interesting that rail staff at Oxted told us nothing about it! A train driver I spoke to last week privately admitted to me that the argument about ‘safety’ is a bogus one, with Thameslink trains running for 25 years driver only, he told me it is all about job preservation in the face of technology. Don't get me wrong I have no respect for Southern management but the unions are seriously living in the past. Rather like the noticeably red flag waving ASLEF union ‘picket’ at London Bridge, that I have fronted up twice- they are a blast from a past long since departed an anachronism from a dinosaur museum. By the way Sam Gyimah our local MP is still very conspicuous with his total absence, maybe now he is a junior minister he feels too important to get his knees dirty in such mundane matters as helping his constituents who are suffering so much? If so he should think again as a great many people are immensely unimpressed, he needs to seriously step up!
id like to know who that train driver was... weve had nothing but support from drivers from other companies.......

the RMT dispute with the guards is particially about job preservation but the ASLEF one isnt.

Thameslink AND Southern have had DOO for over 25 years.....

...but it was maximum 8 coach trains using decent platform based monitors NOT 12 car trains with the unsuitable cameras in the cab. A few years ago Thameslink did actually agree to do 12 car DOO using class 377 trains in exchange for a generous contract (to match Great Northerns). I believe the cameras screens are better in the cab than in the SOuthern trains.
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If driver-less cars are a reality, driver-less trains are too.

Aircraft operate on auto-pilot for the majority of their operation and there is nothing to prevent them being fully automatic other than the issue of keeping passengers comfortable with the idea.

Driver-less trains just need a suitable catalyst and industrial disputes will pretty much be the thing.
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