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Old 10-10-2016, 03:19 PM
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Step by step backdown. Her conference speech keeps the hard right quite and convinces them that as a remainer she can be trusted. She then moderates repeatedly. However, beware the price she will extract from big business.
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:21 PM
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So Downing Street saying there may now be a parliamentary vote on the actual deal - sands shifting?
Probably taken some legal/constitutional advice.
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:28 PM
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So Downing Street saying there may now be a parliamentary vote on the actual deal - sands shifting?
I cant find this news? Where did you see it? -

Edit: found - please ignore!
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:29 PM
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:34 PM
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Does anyone who is not delusional really think that this break from the EU is gonna go anything other than rather badly?

The storm clouds are most definitely on the horizon. Going to be a hard Brexit whether we like it or not.
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:39 PM
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Didn't the remainers warn everyone that if we voted to leave the EU then we might lose access to the single market? The electorate listened and decided to vote leave. Why now do the same remainers wish to interfere in the will of the people?
The will of the 51.9% people who were manipulated and lied to, you mean? Ok let the pre-trigger sh1t hit the fan over the next six months then let's have a second referendum with the open truth from both sides this time.

Let's see what the 'will of the people' says then.
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:44 PM
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Any chance of getting the whole country to sing "you don't know what you're doing" in unison?
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:47 PM
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Didn't the remainers warn everyone that if we voted to leave the EU then we might lose access to the single market? The electorate listened and decided to vote leave. Why now do the same remainers wish to interfere in the will of the people?
All most of the Leavers, especially in towns up north which have made a mess of themselves voted on was the ability to keep out people not from here. They probably don't even know what the single market is - they probably think it's where they get their weekly piece of fruit from
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:53 PM
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:55 PM
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[QUOTE=El Aguila;13264235]Any chance of getting the whole country to sing "you don't know what you're doing" in unison?[/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-10/google-said-to-revive-plan-to-construct-london-headquarters

Some good news in the UK for a Spanish company for you.
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Old 10-10-2016, 03:59 PM
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Can we find some others as well who pay tax please?
Yeah I know. They'll pay employer NI here. They seem to be the most effective beneficiaries of the single market from a tax perspective. Late edit as I wanted to check. Apple and Google's parent company have the two largest stock market capitalisations in the World so although their tax avoidence annoys the hell out of me it still has to be good news for the UK. Now to find a way to tax them.

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Old 10-10-2016, 04:38 PM
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SmileySmith: you're right to be worried that after months in the job, our trade minister is essentially clueless on key facts but the worse will not come to the worst. By the time we exit, in some 2.5 years time, the Government will have got past the rhetoric and will be dealing with the reality of global trade not least because Ministers won't be doing the negotiating and won't be poring over every detail. And my bet is that we will not fall back to rely on WTO rules alone (although we'll still have to agree new schedules as a non-EU member).
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:12 PM
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Not sure how many will be able to see beyond the paywall. For some reason it worked for me. Article arguing that a hard Brexit is the only way to go. It's quite a balanced article.

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Not sure how many will be able to see beyond the paywall. For some reason it worked for me. Article arguing that a hard Brexit is the only way to go. It's quite a balanced article.

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"Sometimes history throws up ideas that are better tested than forever stymied. Britain’s mastery of its own affairs, even at the cost of access to the European market and the political chambers that regulate it, is a big, legitimate idea that has stirred politics for 30 years. If it is not allowed to run its course, even after a national referendum in its favour, it will not disappear, it will intensify in the shadows and return in more fearsome form.

This is not just about future troubles but immediate ones, too. Referendum mandates can be opaque but June’s sent one intelligible signal: the end of free movement is, for the public, a non-negotiable demand. The European single market, even when accessed on the lesser Swiss-Norwegian terms, is conditional on free movement. So, unless they believe the EU or the British electorate is bluffing, Remainers (and the most tentative Leavers) are not much use in the process of withdrawal. The only exit is hard exit."
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This is not just about future troubles but immediate ones, too. Referendum mandates can be opaque but June’s sent one intelligible signal: the end of free movement is, for the public, a non-negotiable demand. The European single market, even when accessed on the lesser Swiss-Norwegian terms, is conditional on free movement. So, unless they believe the EU or the British electorate is bluffing, Remainers (and the most tentative Leavers) are not much use in the process of withdrawal. The only exit is hard exit."
Yes. A great example of meaningless rhetoric, hyperbole and untruths. The terms of Brexit were not voted on.

And where is the balance you said was there?
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