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it did not happen the shuttle that landed had dust all over its feet. There is no wind on the moon so how did that happen when the rockets are deployed so the shuttle can land there are no craters there.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:25 PM
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Perhaps the trajectory of the craft aimed for the weakest part of the belt. That way they would not be in the Van Allen belt for long and it would not be at its strongest.
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Look at "Lunar laser ranging experiment" on wiki. We still fire lasers into the equipment left on the moon in the Apollo missions to this day.
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it did not happen the shuttle that landed had dust all over its feet. There is no wind on the moon so how did that happen when the rockets are deployed so the shuttle can land there are no craters there.
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There were a couple of people who queried it, one an astronaut and another person (I can't remember who he was) but he produced a report about why it couldn't happen. The astronaut man died in a space simulation accident and the man who produced the report was killed (along with his wife and daughter) in an accident the day before he was due to produce his report.

They showed 2 pieces of video footage, apparently taken 2 miles apart, but when they super-imposed the two films, they were shown to be in exactly the same place. Also, the hairline cross thingies that were etched on the camera the astronauts were wearing, were shown to be behind certain objects they photographed - which couldn't happen.
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Wasnt there five or six usa flags left up there and you can still make the shadows out of all but one of them, as one fell over due to the force of the lunar modules rocket boosters being used to get the astronauts off the moon.
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I want something a bit more concrete than that!

Don't you think it odd that no other country has ever landed on the moon?

How did they get through the radiation field (the Van-something Belt)?
With respect this is why you need to swot up on the science! You mean the Van Allen Belt. Maybe this will help

"The Apollo missions marked the first event where humans traveled through the Van Allen belts, which was one of several radiation hazards known by mission planners. The astronauts had low exposure in the Van Allen belts due to the short period of time spent flying through them. The command module's inner structure was an aluminum "sandwich" consisting of a welded aluminium inner skin, a thermally bonded honeycomb core, and a thin aluminium "face sheet". The steel honeycomb core and outer face sheets were thermally bonded to the inner skin.

In fact, the astronauts' overall exposure was dominated by solar particles once outside the earth's magnetic field. The total radiation received by the astronauts varied from mission to mission but was measured to be between 0.16 and 1.14 rads (1.6 and 11.4 mGy), much less than the standard of 5 rem (50 mSv) per year set by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission for people who work with radioactivity."
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I believe they landed on the moon - would hate something else from my childhood to be false.

I did watch the start of the program and it did remind me a bit of Thunderbirds.
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Crikey.

I'm not out to disrspect anyone.

Wish I'd never started the thread now (and one of the main reasons I stopped using the BBS so often).
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I'm not sullying anyone's memory.

I watched a programme on TV this evening, and decided to ask the BBS what they thought.

Just saying the conspiracy 'is false' doesn't exactly answer the question, does it?
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I think it was called 'Did man land on the moon' or something like that - it was on Channel 5 at 8.00 pm - watch it on Catch Up
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I can imagine that if the Americans were so desperate to show their technical superiority and claim one-upmanship in the Cold war, that they wanted to the fool the world that they had been to the moon when they really didn't then perhaps they could make a reasonable go of it, but to repeat the jape 7 times seems a little unnecessary.
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it did not happen the shuttle that landed had dust all over its feet. There is no wind on the moon so how did that happen when the rockets are deployed so the shuttle can land there are no craters there.
There is wind on the moon the "Solar wind" There is dust on the pads of the Lunar Modual as the lunar dust is a few inches thick. The landing rockets cause the dust to rise and of course the guys walking around the LM would have kicked up dust.

The force of the landing and take off rockets would not have been powerful enough to make craters. Don't forget the gravity on the moon is 1/6th of gravity on earth and the force required to provide a soft landing and take off is much lower.
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There is wind on the moon the "Solar wind" There is dust on the pads of the Lunar Modual as the lunar dust is a few inches thick. The landing rockets cause the dust to rise and of course the guys walking around the LM would have kicked up dust.

The force of the landing and take off rockets would not have been powerful enough to make craters. Don't forget the gravity on the moon is 1/6th of gravity on earth and the force required to provide a soft landing and take off is much lower.
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There were a couple of people who queried it, one an astronaut and another person (I can't remember who he was) but he produced a report about why it couldn't happen. The astronaut man died in a space simulation accident and the man who produced the report was killed (along with his wife and daughter) in an accident the day before he was due to produce his report.

They showed 2 pieces of video footage, apparently taken 2 miles apart, but when they super-imposed the two films, they were shown to be in exactly the same place. Also, the hairline cross thingies that were etched on the camera the astronauts were wearing, were shown to be behind certain objects they photographed - which couldn't happen.
There were definately a number of things in the programme that had me wondering whether the landings actually happened. However the programme lacked anyone coming forward to give the opposing view. Yes there was the NASA guy, but all he basically said that their is so much out their to add to the claims it never happened that it was a waste of time giving answers to them all. So other than the odd exception, he stayed true to his word and did not debunk what was brought up.

However what they did present really had be questioning for the first time whether the landings actually did happen.
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