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Old 16-01-2019, 04:22 PM
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Footballers and double-barrelled surnames

I was reading the report on the Bromley/Charlton Kent Cup game from last night and saw that Charlton had a least 3 players (mentioned in the report - there may have been more) with double-barrelled surnames.

No big deal, but it is something that seems much more prevalent these days than of yore. Sometimes it can get to be quite a mouthful. Historically the trait has been reserved for the upper classes to the point of being a parody. Apparently the aristocracy don't have a monopoly on this anymore.

I'm posting this in General Chit Chat as it transcends football, and I'm sure will be told it is sociological phenomenon brought about by living in the diverse cosmopolitan make-up of the UK/world today (or some such reasoning).

Also, I wonder if we could make up a complete team of double barrel named players that would give commentators nightmares!

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Old 16-01-2019, 04:37 PM
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In Chile (and I guess other Spanish speaking countries, although I'm not entirely sure) everyone uses both their Paternal and Maternal surnames.
Which is fine. If I have to register on a website for example and need to input 2 surnames, I will use my mother's surname in addition to my actual (paternal) surname. However, problems occur when your own official documents e.g. passport don't mention your maternal surname. Things can get very complicated very quickly!
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I’m wondering what some of them will do if they have a child with someone who also has a double-barrelled surname.

If both parents want their surname to be used, does the child have a quadruple surname?!
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I’m wondering what some of them will do if they have a child with someone who also has a double-barrelled surname.

If both parents want their surname to be used, does the child have a quadruple surname?!
If he becomes a footballer he's not going to sell many shirts with his name on.
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It could be more to do with modern families, more people not marrying before registering the births and wanting to using both names, more couples separating and the child wanting to acknowledge both parents.

It could also just be because they sound nice and posh

On Alan Davies' podcast he says that him and his friends mutter in reply at the announcement of Ainsley Maitland-Niles.....Conservative
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I’m wondering what some of them will do if they have a child with someone who also has a double-barrelled surname.

If both parents want their surname to be used, does the child have a quadruple surname?!
I wondered about that with Rubin Loftus-Cheek who is half brother to Leon Cort, so would I be right in saying he could call himself Rubin Loftus-Cort-Cheek or some such combination.
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It could be more to do with modern families, more people not marrying before registering the births and wanting to using both names, more couples separating and the child wanting to acknowledge both parents.
I suspect is the right answer.
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If he becomes a footballer he's not going to sell many shirts with his name on.
If the parents are Clarke-Parker and Foster-Collins, their child can put CPFC on the back of their shirt.

I’ll leave it to others to amuse themselves with some more robust 4 letter word combos!
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Who was that dude who used to play for Chelsea in the early 80s with the double barrelled surname? Everyone assumed he was a posho but in all likelihood he came from the local council estate
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Who was that dude who used to play for Chelsea in the early 80s with the double barrelled surname? Everyone assumed he was a posho but in all likelihood he came from the local council estate
Mr Chumley-Warner.
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In Chile (and I guess other Spanish speaking countries, although I'm not entirely sure) everyone uses both their Paternal and Maternal surnames.
Which is fine. If I have to register on a website for example and need to input 2 surnames, I will use my mother's surname in addition to my actual (paternal) surname. However, problems occur when your own official documents e.g. passport don't mention your maternal surname. Things can get very complicated very quickly!
It is the same in Spain, and complicated by the fact that I have my Mother's surname as a given name.
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Who was that dude who used to play for Chelsea in the early 80s with the double barrelled surname? Everyone assumed he was a posho but in all likelihood he came from the local council estate
Peter Rhoades-Brown. Nice guy, fairly ‘middle class’ in comparison with some players of that era, but not really posh.
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I wondered about that with Rubin Loftus-Cheek who is half brother to Leon Cort, so would I be right in saying he could call himself Rubin Loftus-Cort-Cheek or some such combination.
Maybe Cort is Leon and Carl's mothers name. The father is just Loftus and Rubens mothers name is Cheek.

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I wonder if Wan-Bissaka is two names, or just the way it is?
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If he becomes a footballer he's not going to sell many shirts with his name on.
He wouldn’t need to - the lettering costs on just half a dozen shirts would have the club shop cash registers ringing......
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