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Old 07-10-2017, 06:59 AM
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Do you mean support for independence in Catalonia? Or for Catalonia in the world?
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Old 07-10-2017, 07:16 AM
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You’re right, unsurprisingly, the company tax is paid to the state, ie the country which holds the HQ. So they’ve done this to make sure they remain in the EU.
I appreciate the banks are moving for ECB purposes, but that wasn’t what I was getting at

If you have a bank with hq not in Catalonia but with the ops in Catalonia, then any normal attribution of taxing rights, the majority of taxing rights would still go to Catalonia because that’s where the activity is. But your post suggested the region they moved to would get all the tax? Spain take an extremely aggressive approach in relation to this approach in an international context, so I am somewhat entertained that they appear to take the total opposite approach in a domestic context.
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Old 07-10-2017, 07:27 AM
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Are we talking about a future in which Catalonia is a new country, or the present?
La Caixa is the biggest bank in Spain in terms of current accounts within the country, I think - 25% of the total.
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Old 07-10-2017, 07:34 AM
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Are we talking about a future in which Catalonia is a new country, or the present?
La Caixa is the biggest bank in Spain in terms of current accounts within the country, I think - 25% of the total.
No, now. I may has misunderstood but you said their new autonomous communities would get the taxing rights within spain now.

In a cross border / independence context this is called permanent establishment. Banks are used to dealing with this and tend to use legal branches of main trader in other countries (a branch, by its existence creates a permanent establishment) So if there was independence these banks would set up branches in Catalonia, and taxing rights would be attributed based on location of functions between the main company and the permanent establishment.
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Spanish nationalists putting on free buses to Barcelona tmrw, counter demonstration
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Old 07-10-2017, 10:02 AM
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Spanish nationalists putting on free buses to Barcelona tmrw, counter demonstration
Are they the Franco fascists seen at protests in madrid and at previous national demonstrations over the last decade by Franco supporters in Barcelona ?
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Old 07-10-2017, 10:32 AM
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Are they the Franco fascists seen at protests in madrid and at previous national demonstrations over the last decade by Franco supporters in Barcelona ?
Opinion polls have previously suggested that the majority in Catalonia don't want independence. There are very big communities of Andalucians, Murcianos, Galegos and others in Catalonia and at some point they will have to make their views known.
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Old 07-10-2017, 10:40 AM
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I think they’re making their views heard today and tomorrow. I have a lot of Catalan friends in Catalonia, all to the left of RH80s, in my view, and none of them is in favour of secession.
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Old 07-10-2017, 10:47 AM
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Opinion polls have previously suggested that the majority in Catalonia don't want independence. There are very big communities of Andalucians, Murcianos, Galegos and others in Catalonia and at some point they will have to make their views known.
At the beginning of this thread posters were predicting that the referendum wasn't even going to take place , Since then the issue has ballooned massively with Catalonian Nationalists taking to the streets in Barcelona and the Spanish Nationalists taking to the streets in Madrid with many singing the Franco national Anthem .
This could have all been avoided with a promise of a legal referendum which would have returned a no vote for independence , That moment has now passed and since the Spanish government have acted like a military regime and battered their own people young and old , If a bunch of Franco flag waving and Anthem singing Franco fascist turn up in buses in Barcelona tomorrow all hell could breakout . The Spanish Police should stop any coaches carrying right-wing extremists to avoid trouble but I expect they will wave them through , Previously upto 70 buses have been sent by the far right for pro-nationalist demonstrations in Barcelona .
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Old 07-10-2017, 10:49 AM
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I think they’re making their views heard today and tomorrow. I have a lot of Catalan friends in Catalonia, all to the left of RH80s, in my view, and none of them is in favour of secession.
Fair enough and good luck to them but these demo's get hijacked by the loons as we know .
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Catalonia have to declare independence within days otherwise support for it will drain away .

TBH your views on europe are not taken seriously.
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Old 07-10-2017, 11:20 AM
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TBH your views on europe are not taken seriously.
Are you the son of Maz by any chance ?
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Old 07-10-2017, 11:26 AM
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Fair enough and good luck to them but these demo's get hijacked by the loons as we know .
Indeed, and there are catalanists ready to call anyone with a Spanish flag a “fascist”.
Would be cool if we can avoid that on here.
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Indeed, and there are catalanists ready to call anyone with a Spanish flag a “fascist”.
Would be cool if we can avoid that on here.
Agree.

Bit difficult in Spain with some marches / demos and their fascist salutes for all to see.
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It all starts with the frigging flags. It always does.
I’m in Vallecas today and not a flag to be seen. It feels beautiful.
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Well, it’s not likely to go to a new country outside the EU, I reckon.
I don't see why it has to move, anyway. I mean, Surrey County Council didn't uproot from Kingston when Greater London was created!
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It all starts with the frigging flags. It always does.
I’m in Vallecas today and not a flag to be seen. It feels beautiful.
Nice part of town. The lads who put in our guillotine and brake press invited me down for a weekend a few years ago. The idea was to catch a Rayo game but it got messy.
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The BBC's front page headline reads 'Thousands rally for Spanish unity: Crowds in Madrid sing "Viva Espana" after the disputed Catalan independence referendum'.

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