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Hennessey 5 1.04%
Fosu-Mensah ** 27 5.64%
Dann 3 0.63%
Riedewald 2 0.42%
Ward 1 0.21%
Milivojevic * 0 0%
Puncheon 7 1.46%
van Aanholt 2 0.42%
Loftus-Cheek 405 84.55%
Zaha 20 4.18%
Benteke 1 0.21%
Townsend * 5 1.04%
Tomkins ** 1 0.21%
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No plan A or B. Unfair to rate players because of managers ineptitude.
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Our home form has been an embarrassment since the start of the 2014/15 season. It is now three calendar years. Someone MAKE IT STOP, please!!!!!
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middle and Sclupp LWB, with Townsend, Zaha and Benteke up front would look far better than the mess we saw today IMO. We just need to sort the keeper situation out ASAP, bring in a back up striker, and, if Liverpool will play ball, sign Sakho next Sunday.

the more important. If we're 0/9 after that, it will be poor and things will have to change in some way!
Suddenly looks cheap at 30mil. Desperate Dann was awful, timmo too inexperienced for CB, Reidewald just okay.
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Suddenly looks cheap at 30mil. Desperate Dann was awful, timmo too inexperienced for CB, Reidewald just okay.
I did wonder if it was all but done, just awaiting next weekend's match to be over with to avoid the potentially awkward situation of him being able to play for us in it. May also explain the lack of movement in other areas, as the cash has already been "spent"
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Hennessey 5. Not really at fault put in trouble by back passes and no defence in front of him
Ward and Dan 3 each. Not good enough footballers to pass out from the back
Fosu-Mensah 5. Needs better players around him as I'm sure he's decent
Reidewald 5. See above
van Aarnholt 4. Is he a wing back or a winger?
Puncheon 4. Compared with Mooy nowhere near good enough to run a midfield
Loftus-Cheek 7. Grew into the game our Motm
Zaha 6. Was a threat but poor crosses and shot shy. Got to stay on his feet and not be wound up by cynical opponents
Milivejovic 2. Surely not fit?? Offered nothing whatsoever
Benteke 3. Don't see him as "high pressing" player, didn't win enough headers and too often isolated
Townsend 6. Injected some pace and worked hard but too little too late
Tomkins not on long enough and the game was lost anyway
FDB needs players who can pass shot and score and a centre back and a right wing back.
I know it's match one but
Huddersfield looked like us under BFS and we looked like a sh*t Arsenal!
Much work to do and money to be spent...
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Okay so had some time to calm down, see Brighton lose, Dunk score an own goal and reflect.

We need a new keeper, that's been true for three years. We also need back up for Tekkers and someone to push him - we knew that as well.

I think Sakho is now a must - this allows us to play Fosu-Mensah in the right wing back position (if we're gona stick with the 3-4-3) and bringing in a keeper comfortable with the ball at his feet means suddenly playing it out from the back like we did today doesn't put us in immediate danger.

Not much to ask, eh?

Edit: I also agree with those calling for Schlupp on the left and Loftus-Cheek in the middle - we've finally got a box to box midfielder and we need to use him as such. Means Townsend can play in that front three as well.
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Hennessey 0
Mensah 2
Dann 2
Ridewald. 2
PVA. 2
Ward. 0
Luka. 0
Puncheon 0
Lofts Cheek 6
Zaha. 5
Benteke. 1

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We should have got a manager that understands the demands of the premiership. A time like Palace need to build from a sound defence. We are going to get ripped to shreds we can't stop balls into the box with this system and we can't defend them either.
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And can someone tell Riedewald not to keep passing back to Hennessey. Especially when the rest of the team are in the opposition half. Brainless
But we are keeping the ball ( not aimed at you mate).
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Well that was ******* dreadful. I fully expected us to lose today but not as poorly as that. We could have lost 6 or 7 nil. Worse than Sunderland for me st least that was only a terrible 10 mins, this was a clueless 90.
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We should have got a manager that understands the demands of the premiership. A time like Palace need to build from a sound defence. We are going to get ripped to shreds we can't stop balls into the box with this system and we can't defend them either.
Exactly but pin the blame on Parish not FdB. You have stick to what we're about.
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I wasn't looking forward to the new season when I heard Puncheon had been made captain obviously hadn't seen him play before was dreadful again today along with Ward the sooner he goes to WBA the better
The thought has crossed my mind that it wasn't FDB who made Punch captain, in the same way that he didn't give Delaney and Williams new contracts.
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Just back to my Mum's house, where we're spending the night, so had a bit of time to reflect.

First of all, I think the best team won, and the score could have easily been worse than it was.

I have no idea what the game plan was - it seemed like a lot of individuals with no team approach to the game. The defence seemed lost, two full backs as wing backs nullified our attacking threat and RLC out of position in the first half contributed next to nothing. Puncheon looked like a passenger and Benteke got no service from open play. Zaha looked lively, but was frustrating in his final use of the ball. Had Benteke's header gone in in the first half (he should have hit the target at least), then we may well have got a point.

Second half was not a lot better, with still no semblance of a game plan. RLC looked improved - playing in his natural position - but that was about it. With Luka and RLC (and Cabaye when fit) I think most people would agree than Punch just doesn't fit in the side.

I think there are three likely outcomes from here:
1) FDB is backed, shifts on some squad players and brings in those needed to make this approach work;
2) FDB realises it isn't going to work, with the change in style AND formation, and switches to something more suited to what we have; or
3) Neither of the above, and we are looking for a new manager come December.

I suspect option 2 would be the most likely, but have been warned he's quite stubborn, and so may not entertain a change to his "philosophy".

Tomkins at RCB, Fosu-Mensah at RWB, Luka and Cabaye in the middle and Sclupp LWB, with Townsend, Zaha and Benteke up front would look far better than the mess we saw today IMO. We just need to sort the keeper situation out ASAP, bring in a back up striker, and, if Liverpool will play ball, sign Sakho next Sunday.

Today was one game, and it was appalling. I expect to lose next weekend (it's got to be their turn), which makes Swansea all the more important. If we're 0/9 after that, it will be poor and things will have to change in some way!
After 50 years as a fan sadly I think option 3 is most likely but obviously I hope that is not the case
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Agreed. I expected more from him. Worst debut for years. Should have been substituted.

Not the new Valerian Ishmael I hope !
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