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Old 17-07-2017, 03:12 PM
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Old 17-07-2017, 03:13 PM
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To be honest, you are just making a conclusion that he is still highly rated without any support. Why wouldn't you want to know what Chelsea fans think of him?
Without any support?

Firstly I know enough Chelsea fans(unfortunately) and not the jcl type to get a decent canvas of opinion.... not a board which is full of jcl types. And I've come to my conclusion by what I have been told. Not heard one bad word about him.

More telling is that He has also played all through the England youth set up, and has played for the Chelsea first team as recent as last season. I haven't seen anything to suggest he would flop like bamford who I was told by he same mates would flop.
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I'm hoping we get Ridewald, BMI and Chambers and that we see Dann, Delaney and Kelly go by next summer
Thank feck someone isn't being all sentimental and maudlin over players who've been our past, but aren't our future for much longer. Let's face it, we've struggled over the last two seasons and not progressed, so why not stir the pot and find alternatives while we can still get a fee for the stalwarts who have done well for a while, but cannot lift their game any further?
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He's not that quick but I know what you're saying as our midfield is so slow.
Meant stamina!

Playing 3 at the back is fine.. but you need legs the midfield. Look at Chelsea with kante and now that fella from Monaco. Cabaye can't do that.

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Without any support?

Firstly I know enough Chelsea fans(unfortunately) and not the jcl type to get a decent canvas of opinion.... not a board which is full of jcl types. And I've come to my conclusion by what I have been told. Not heard one bad word about him.

More telling is that He has also played all through the England youth set up, and has played for the Chelsea first team as recent as last season. I haven't seen anything to suggest he would flop like bamford who I was told by he same mates would flop.
I think you should trust the consensus on other forums more than you do. I have been doing this for years and they are typically very good at evaluating players.

Here are the recent signings which have had near consensus from their previous teams forums that they are pure quality:

James McArthur
Andros Townsend
Luka Milivojovic
James Tomkins
Scott Dann
Mamadou Sakho


Here are recent signings that had near consensus from their previous teams forums that they are poor:

Alan Pardew
Jeffrey Schlupp
Matheiu Flamini
Jordan Mutch
Conner Wickham
Emmanuel Adebayor


Now, it is not perfect (e.g. I rate Wickham), but I think this list alone shows there is significant value in reading other forums. In fact, if our transfers would have been better the last few years if this was used as scouting tool.
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Risky deal, wouldnt pay over 20 mil for him, better of spending a further 5/6 on sakho
Sakho's injured with no specified date of his return to full fitness or guarantee of whether or not he'll be the same player again. Yep, let's go and blow 25-26 mil on him.
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Old 17-07-2017, 03:38 PM
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I think you should trust the consensus on other forums more than you do. I have been doing this for years and they are typically very good at evaluating players.

Here are the recent signings which have had near consensus from their previous teams forums that they are pure quality:

James McArthur
Andros Townsend
Luka Milivojovic
James Tomkins
Scott Dann
Mamadou Sakho


Here are recent signings that had near consensus from their previous teams forums that they are poor:

Alan Pardew
Jeffrey Schlupp
Matheiu Flamini
Jordan Mutch
Conner Wickham
Emmanuel Adebayor


Now, it is not perfect (e.g. I rate Wickham), but I think this list alone shows there is significant value in reading other forums. In fact, if our transfers would have been better the last few years if this was used as scouting tool.
Bolasie was laughed at by Bristol City fans when we signed him for 200K.
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Old 17-07-2017, 03:49 PM
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Bolasie was laughed at by Bristol City fans when we signed him for 200K.
That is the biggest myth of all time. I read the forums at the time and they thought it was outrageous he was sold for so little and that he had massive potential (but could be headless chicken at times). Here are some posts:

"Very odd if true, he was heavily involved in pre-season and looked like he had quite a big part to play this year."

"Bolaise, IMO, is better than Adomah!!!"

"I think this would be a big loss if he goes. The lad has HUGE potential!"

"Would be a blow if he leaves, I think he could be a good player for us."

"I wouldn't blame him, hasn't been given a proper chance. Bags of potential and wants to move back to the capital"

That was all just on the first page. There were some more negative reviews but it was significantly more positive overall. It is important to remember that the average fan on a message board is much more knowledgable of their players than what you read by casual fans on twitter.

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Make it 500 bitcoins. Just need Russ_uk to facitiliate the deal. Anyone know how I can get hold of him?
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Bolasie was laughed at by Bristol City fans when we signed him for 200K.
Im sure Cardiff fans also appreciated Mutch
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Old 17-07-2017, 04:13 PM
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Im sure Cardiff fans also appreciated Mutch
They loved him, but QPR fans didn't.
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They loved him, but QPR fans didn't.
Correct. I should have added Sanogo to the second list as well!
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That is the biggest myth of all time. I read the forums at the time and they thought it was outrageous he was sold for so little and that he had massive potential (but could be headless chicken at times). Here are some posts:

"Very odd if true, he was heavily involved in pre-season and looked like he had quite a big part to play this year."

"Bolaise, IMO, is better than Adomah!!!"

"I think this would be a big loss if he goes. The lad has HUGE potential!"

"Would be a blow if he leaves, I think he could be a good player for us."

"I wouldn't blame him, hasn't been given a proper chance. Bags of potential and wants to move back to the capital"

That was all just on the first page. There were some more negative reviews but it was significantly more positive overall. It is important to remember that the average fan on a message board is much more knowledgable of their players than what you read by casual fans on twitter.
I think it was mainly because of a BC fan that used to post a lot on here and would regularly be sniffy about how much better they were than us, including laughing at us for taking Bolasie the cutprice castoff.
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Sky confirming now that we are interested...
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Sky Sports 'sources' report we are in interested, the deal is valued at 20 million !!!
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That is the biggest myth of all time. I read the forums at the time and they thought it was outrageous he was sold for so little and that he had massive potential (but could be headless chicken at times). Here are some posts:

"Very odd if true, he was heavily involved in pre-season and looked like he had quite a big part to play this year."

"Bolaise, IMO, is better than Adomah!!!"

"I think this would be a big loss if he goes. The lad has HUGE potential!"

"Would be a blow if he leaves, I think he could be a good player for us."

"I wouldn't blame him, hasn't been given a proper chance. Bags of potential and wants to move back to the capital"

That was all just on the first page. There were some more negative reviews but it was significantly more positive overall. It is important to remember that the average fan on a message board is much more knowledgable of their players than what you read by casual fans on twitter.
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I think you should trust the consensus on other forums more than you do. I have been doing this for years and they are typically very good at evaluating players.

Here are the recent signings which have had near consensus from their previous teams forums that they are pure quality:

James McArthur
Andros Townsend
Luka Milivojovic
James Tomkins
Scott Dann
Mamadou Sakho


Here are recent signings that had near consensus from their previous teams forums that they are poor:

Alan Pardew
Jeffrey Schlupp
Matheiu Flamini
Jordan Mutch
Conner Wickham
Emmanuel Adebayor


Now, it is not perfect (e.g. I rate Wickham), but I think this list alone shows there is significant value in reading other forums. In fact, if our transfers would have been better the last few years if this was used as scouting tool.
Looking at your evidence that's a decent plan
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Sky Sports 'sources' report we are in interested, the deal is valued at 20 million !!!
'Deal' probably meaning fee, add ons and 3 years wages
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