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Old 17-07-2017, 09:25 AM
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Re the Delay Repay stuff. Since ALL / EVERY train from Caterham to London Bridge in the rush hour is CANCELLED (and vice versa EVERY DAY) after we put 'cancelled' what does the delay time refer to ? eg should we put 2 hours and above (because there are no London Bridg trains) or should it be the delay to your journey caused by the inconwenience of changing a few times and hopping on crushed trains etc etc ?
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Old 17-07-2017, 09:34 AM
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Got no problem with drivers wanting the overdue pay talks to start... just keep em separate.

We were so close to getting a workable deal. 48/52%

Then GTR downgrade the DOO part of the deal (while increasing pay) and we're back to 78.4% voting for industrial action.
If the pay deal was offered separately it would likely be accepted , Then the last rejected DOO could be imposed by Southern , ASLEF by linking the 2 have kept the option of industrial action and further DOO discussions open , Personally I think it's a shrewd move .
I could be wrong and other drivers may think differently but currently 78% have voted for industrial action 4 out of 5 , That's good enough for me and I am as a ASLEF member happy to abide by the Majority decision , Democracy before anarchy .
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Old 17-07-2017, 09:40 AM
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Doesn't that go for every profession? There is a reason millions of us live in London and the south east, and a majority of those earn far less than 60k.
Did you miss the bit about the 2 train companies next door paying more ? Also the part about drivers moving south just to get trained quicker before returning as qualified drivers to their local operator as soon a vacancy arises ?
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Did you miss the bit about the 2 train companies next door paying more ? Also the part about drivers moving south just to get trained quicker before returning as qualified drivers to their local operator as soon a vacancy arises ?
Apply for rival company.

Get the job.

Quit current company.

Enjoy more money.

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Re the Delay Repay stuff. Since ALL / EVERY train from Caterham to London Bridge in the rush hour is CANCELLED (and vice versa EVERY DAY) after we put 'cancelled' what does the delay time refer to ? eg should we put 2 hours and above (because there are no London Bridg trains) or should it be the delay to your journey caused by the inconwenience of changing a few times and hopping on crushed trains etc etc ?
normally the latter in your case. or you can judge your delay against the normal timetable as it should run.
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Apply for rival company.

Get the job.

Quit current company.

Enjoy more money.

I just followed this to get a 32% payrise. It took two weeks.
Cool and I am pleased for you and your family

There are only 20k Train driving positions in the UK . You have to be patient and quick , There Is a shortage in the London and southeast though which will increase with cross rail , HST and the ever burgeoning passenger numbers , The future is bright for train drivers ( unless automation takes over ) , The days of union leaders being died in the wool socialists living on council estates are over , Now days they are a more inspirational and ambitious breed owning property , Enjoying foreign holidays and driving fast cars ,Thatcher would be proud and Wilkinson is right about us having large mortgages and cars to pay for This post is meant to be tongue in cheek but includes some elements of truth
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normally the latter in your case. or you can judge your delay against the normal timetable as it should run.
I did a couple for 2 hrs or more and got 8.90 due to them saying 'we have confirmed the delay you experienced was 120 mins or more..."

Its seems the whole process is chaotic and inconsistent ?!
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Old 17-07-2017, 10:25 AM
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If the pay deal was offered separately it would likely be accepted , Then the last rejected DOO could be imposed by Southern , ASLEF by linking the 2 have kept the option of industrial action and further DOO discussions open , Personally I think it's a shrewd move .
I could be wrong and other drivers may think differently but currently 78% have voted for industrial action 4 out of 5 , That's good enough for me and I am as a ASLEF member happy to abide by the Majority decision , Democracy before anarchy .
I normally submit them against the next available train to my planned destination, rather than how long it has taken me to get there via alternate means. Not had one rejected, to date.

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Old 17-07-2017, 10:38 AM
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I normally submit them against the next available train to my planned destination, rather than how long it has taken me to get there via alternate means. Not had one rejected, to date.

Edit - meant to quote Jez, sorry.
cheers- in theory the delay is hours since there are no London Bridge trains direct ie we have to get a Victoria train and change
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