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Old 23-08-2016, 02:39 PM
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Do we want to be Stoke and finish 9th three seasons in a row or do we want the excitement that the Palace roller coaster brings ?

I think I prefer the latter !
I would take stability of it meant developing the clubs infrastructure.
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Old 23-08-2016, 02:40 PM
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Do we want to be Stoke and finish 9th three seasons in a row or do we want the excitement that the Palace roller coaster brings ?

I think I prefer the latter !
Honestly 9th and stability but I think we are a striker and AM off from having that as well as then gelling the new spine together into an effective unit from which Andros, Wilf, Sako and ANOTHER and the full backs can work off to supply tekkers.
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Absolutely.
We're the 5th,Highest Spenders,in Premier League.
So we're Turning into,a Mid-Table side.
Gradual Progression,to the Next Level.
You need to win games to progress, spending money is no guarantee
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Old 23-08-2016, 02:45 PM
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No. We have just signed a top class international striker for £32m... Backwards.. **** me.. Some people
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I don't think we're going backwards but still have an old fashioned Championship club type mindset and other clubs are moving ahead of us.

You only have to look at Parish's requirements for the manager regarding being British and having a 'Palace connection'. In the modern day I don't think this works unfortunately - other clubs of a similiar size like Southampton, Swansea and Middlesborough are much more progressive when it comes to staff appointments. They go for the best man for the job rather than getting someone in hoping the nostalgia effect adds some kind of value.

Scouting wise I think we are light years behind some clubs. Being linked with the likes of Robson-Kanu, Ashley Young and blowing 30+ million on a out of favour striker from another Premier League Club shows we don't really have much of a scouting network especially when you compare it to the other clubs I mentioned and teams like Leicester, West Ham and Watford.
Agree. Especially with regards to the scouting network, which I think has gone backwards.

But the one thing that having a Palace connection appears to do is gives the fans more patience. We've won 2 league games in our last 20 and yet Pardew doesn't get any abuse on match days. If it was Holloway, the Holmesdale would have been calling for his resignation in April.
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I don't know if this counts as going backwards but the infrastructure and facilities appear to be standing still, at best.

The Academy has gone backwards for sure. 'Goals' FFS.
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We aren't going backwards. What we are seeing is a transition period to the next phase which will avoid the issues of the end of last season. Inevitably this will involve short-term bumps as this doesn't happen instantly.
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Old 23-08-2016, 05:22 PM
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You need to win games to progress, spending money is no guarantee
We needed to spend some money to improve the team. 3 out of 4 new signings are yet to start a game
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We have a ridiculous light show to enhance the match day experience but still have problems providing chips at half-time. Where has all the money gone, we are still looking for a new training ground and the stadium has minor upgrades.

Bidding £20 million for squad players (Brady and Schlupp) also seems a little short-sighted. we seem to have no integrated transfer policy for the future, no vision, players like Lookman should be in our squad.
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We have a ridiculous light show to enhance the match day experience but still have problems providing chips at half-time. Where has all the money gone, we are still looking for a new training ground and the stadium has minor upgrades.

Bidding £20 million for squad players (Brady and Schlupp) also seems a little short-sighted. we seem to have no integrated transfer policy for the future, no vision, players like Lookman should be in our squad.
What do you mean where has all the money gone? You make it sound like someone has stolen it! Just look at the basic cost of running a premier league club and the fact that palace keep bumping up against the wage cap and you may have an answer.

If there is one area where there has been a very visible upgrade it is the training ground. Big miss for me is youth development which has really stalled since 2010 took over.
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We have a ridiculous light show to enhance the match day experience but still have problems providing chips at half-time. Where has all the money gone, we are still looking for a new training ground and the stadium has minor upgrades.
The upgrade of stadium lighting has nothing to do with the inability to provide chips.

I expect us to see something about the stadium soon, although don't expect any public announcements.
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More a bump in the road. A club of our size cant just keep going on upward trajectory,

Hanging onto premier status this season with genuine progress towards a better stadium would be major progress.
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Imagine the protests and vitriol on the Leicester boards aimed at their manager, chairman and fringe players.
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I don't really like the dramatic threads about how the club is going backwards but I do think that there seems to be a change in attitude which has developed from last season around the squad.

We lost a huge character in Bolasie and the team seems much worse for it both in terms of talent and attitude. A bit like Ian Wright he is proving irreplaceable. Only difference is we don't have the players at the moment who can cope with it like we did when Wright left.
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If we can stay up, even by the tiniest margin, I believe really good times are ahead. It really is vital we stay up though, relegation would be catastrophic across every single aspect of the club
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Money went to thier heads like rabbit in headlights wasted big money on Adebayor wages when Murray would have been better
Can't see where the investment is going ..spunked on pretty lights ..and a striker who can't take penalties .but might learn from these mistakes if we stay up
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If you can't really buy a player over a two year period you are heading for awful trouble. No talent in that area at the club. Hope we can improve it under this new regime.
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