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Old 19-05-2017, 09:26 AM
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All the good young quality from the Championship and below has been cherry picked by the likes of Chelsea and Tottenham at a very young age.
All that remains are older players that have come good having previously not shone in the Premier League at a young age, Sako, .Lee, Knockeart etc. The problem with these guys is that at their age, they have most likely peaked when succeeding in the Championship.

We really need to pay the money for the young talent as soon as they look good and give them a chance in the first team or loan them out.
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Old 19-05-2017, 09:29 AM
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The Leeds centre back, Pontus Jannson. Moving from Torino to Leeds for £3m. Be very good for the squad
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Old 19-05-2017, 09:37 AM
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I've watched very little championship football this year and what I've seen the quality has not been great. That said i am sure there are players in the championship or league one that would be good enough for our team. Maybe not to start in August but who could be developed throughout the season. the wiki attachment shows that several players from recent seasons would for many, be good enough for us. Alli, Heaton, Keane being the best examples. Others like Deeney, Francis, Gray would make us better. I'm not saying there are loads of players but there are some.

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Old 19-05-2017, 09:45 AM
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The Leeds centre back, Pontus Jannson. Moving from Torino to Leeds for £3m. Be very good for the squad
Seems cheap but With Delaney resigned I don't see us moving for another centreback except Sakho
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Old 19-05-2017, 09:52 AM
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Perhaps so but we don't know the details of Delaneys extension. He could be on cheap wages with some coaching structure and the plan for him is not to be named in the 25, but if we miss our transfer targets we have a player who can be the 4th/5th choice
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Old 19-05-2017, 10:04 AM
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Chris Wood from Leeds would be useful as a back up striker.
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Old 19-05-2017, 10:08 AM
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Perhaps so but we don't know the details of Delaneys extension. He could be on cheap wages with some coaching structure and the plan for him is not to be named in the 25, but if we miss our transfer targets we have a player who can be the 4th/5th choice
He said he has no interest in coaching, managing or even football once he has finished playing.
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Old 19-05-2017, 10:09 AM
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Chris Wood from Leeds would be useful as a back up striker.
To my mind, he fits the Jordan Rhodes – Ross McCormack – Patrick Bamford level of player, not good enough for the PL, quality in the Championship.

I suppose you could’ve said the same about Murray before he got a run of games here, but he wouldn’t cost Chris Woods money.
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Old 19-05-2017, 10:39 AM
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To my mind, he fits the Jordan Rhodes – Ross McCormack – Patrick Bamford level of player, not good enough for the PL, quality in the Championship.

I suppose you could’ve said the same about Murray before he got a run of games here, but he wouldn’t cost Chris Woods money.
Good back up strikers are hard to come by.
Keeping them sharp and happy on the bench.
Honestly the gap between the Prem and the Champ is so large, we might as well shop abroad for better value.

I think it's better for us to get a younger hungry striker who see's Palace as a spring board for their career. It'll keep Benteke on his toes and cost less no doubt than est. players in the champ and none really spring to mind.
Rhodes and Murray are those classic example of good strikers that just cant step up and lead the line at Prem levels.
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Look abroad.

We signed Luka for £11M and Burnley signed Jeff Hendrick for £10.5M! Talk about value for money...

Let alone Villa signing Benteke for £7M and Ross McCormack having multiple £10M+ moves to different Championship clubs. Or Liverpool signing Suarez for £23M and Carrol for £35M because he's English.

Need to set-up a scouting network abroad asap, absolute priority if we want to move forward as a club. That and investing in the academy.

For what it's worth I think Mooy, Hourihane and Cairney could offer something in this league. But at what cost relative to (potentially way better) players abroad? Luckily BFS seems to have decent knowledge of foreign leagues/players through his own network (signed Kouyate, Lanzini, M'Vila, Luka et al).
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They might be "gems" but you can't make a case for any of them getting in our current first team.

I'm not trying to dismiss Champ players per se but rather I'm being realistic on their prospects of getting in our side. It's a lovely romantic notion but it's just not the reality.
I think Malone would be better than Schlupp. Tom Cairney would be first choice ahead of Puncheon (home games). Hedlin would challenge Ward. Knockheart is probably good enough to play the number 10 role as well as Cairney. Haven't seen enough of the keepers but would not be surprised if a couple were better than Wayne.
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Chris Wood from Leeds would be useful as a back up striker.
Would he be 2nd or 3rd striker. I am sure Wickham will be ahead of him.
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I think Malone would be better than Schlupp. Tom Cairney would be first choice ahead of Puncheon (home games). Hedlin would challenge Ward. Knockheart is probably good enough to play the number 10 role as well as Cairney. Haven't seen enough of the keepers but would not be surprised if a couple were better than Wayne.

I would be shocked if they all weren't better than the Hen.

Can't agree re Malone over Schlupp - he's been very good for us at LB and can get forward (and back) with great pace.

But you're correct to raise the Puncheon and Ward positions as areas where we need to improve. Albeit I'd be disappointed if we were looking to replace either with a Championship player. We'll do much better than that I suspect.
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Would he be 2nd or 3rd striker. I am sure Wickham will be ahead of him.

Miles ahead of him
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Wood will go for circa £15m+ this summer.

We would be lucky to get our money back if we sold Wickham.

Someone whos just scored 27 goals, albeit in the Championships, vs someone whos spent the season mostly injured and has had a handful of good games for us 2 years....

I know who id prefer.
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We would be lucky to get our money back if we sold Wickham.



Someone whos just scored 27 goals, albeit in the Championships, vs someone whos spent the season mostly injured and has had a handful of good games for us 2 years....



I know who id prefer.

A fit Connor is in a different league to Wood.
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