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I'd missed that, I'd always hoped that they would finally nail him but never had that much expectation given the key prosecution witnesses would be
Messers Hamilton and Landis those upstanding pillars of clean cycling.
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Marvellous news about Contador.
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Spent the last 2 hours reading the CAS ruling (don't tell work). Seems that ultimately they discounted the likelihood of beef and blood and laid the blame at contaminated supplements.

However Contadors defences were weak throughout and ignored the fact that he had to prove he didn't do it deliberately rather than questioning potential issues with what the UCI and WADA had done.

It's very long but interesting.
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Interesting thoughts from John Gadret about how different last year's Giro might have been without the drug cheat. (Although given it has now been added to 'Zapatero' Scarponi palmares doesn't really take cycling much further forward)

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It's true though isn't it - battling out for 2nd or 3rd isn't quite the same as if you're going head to head for 1st and 2nd.

It's like in the Olympics, Gold and you're a legend forever. Bronze or Silver and you're remembered. But no silver medallist is treated above a bronze winner.
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Win for Cav in his first contested sprint with Sky.
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That was actually quite a good stage, good split and a good win for cavendish. According to something I read earlier, that's his 75th win. Pretty impressive.
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Great stuff, no more then the grot bag deserves!

Glad Andy gets his medal, he should of won it properly in the first place though.
Schleck has said he is going to refuse it as ihe thinks contador is innocent.
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Among the bigger news the Cav win gets put to one side perhaps, but good work all the same ...
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Jan Ullrich banned for 2 years! (Backdated to 2005 and all results since then have been cancelled). I know he always was a bit dodgy but I liked him as a rider. Always seemed a bit dim though, he went through the rear window of his team car once when he was drafting and the car stopped!
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Jan Ullrich banned for 2 years! (Backdated to 2005 and all results since then have been cancelled). I know he always was a bit dodgy but I liked him as a rider. Always seemed a bit dim though, he went through the rear window of his team car once when he was drafting and the car stopped!
I always had suspicions about him Ullrich and while at his best he was an exciting rider I always wanted him to fail as a result. His legacy will be as the recipient of the 'is that the best you can do look?' from Armstrong
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Who are they going to award the 3rd spot on the 2005 TdF podium to? it is difficult imagine a less deserving bunch ..... you have to go down to Cuddles really
1 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel 86h 15' 02" (nothing ever proved)
2 Ivan Basso (ITA) Team CSC +4' 40" Puerto related ban
3 Jan Ullrich (GER) T-Mobile +6' 21" Puerto related ban
4 Francisco Mancebo (ESP) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne +9' 59" 'Retired' following Puerto
5 Alexandre Vinokourov (KAZ) T-Mobile +11' 01" Blood doping ban
6 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner +11' 21" Failed test early in career & allegations by former manager - see below
7 Michael Rasmussen (DEN) Rabobank +11' 33" Ban for missed tests
8 Cadel Evans (AUS) Davitamon-Lotto +11' 55" the only real candidate
9 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak +12' 44" Blood doping ban

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Another win for Cav but Sky isn't exactly the well oiled machine that HTC was.
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I always had suspicions about him Ullrich and while at his best he was an exciting rider I always wanted him to fail as a result. His legacy will be as the recipient of the 'is that the best you can do look?' from Armstrong
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Who are they going to award the 3rd spot on the 2005 TdF podium to? it is difficult imagine a less deserving bunch ..... you have to go down to Cuddles really
1 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel 86h 15' 02" (nothing ever proved)
2 Ivan Basso (ITA) Team CSC +4' 40" Puerto related ban
3 Jan Ullrich (GER) T-Mobile +6' 21" Puerto related ban
4 Francisco Mancebo (ESP) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne +9' 59" 'Retired' following Puerto
5 Alexandre Vinokourov (KAZ) T-Mobile +11' 01" Blood doping ban
6 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner +11' 21" Failed test early in career & allegations by former manager - see below
7 Michael Rasmussen (DEN) Rabobank +11' 33" Ban for missed tests
8 Cadel Evans (AUS) Davitamon-Lotto +11' 55" the only real candidate
9 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak +12' 44" Blood doping ban

Former Gerolsteiner manager Hans-Michael Holczer claims that American Levi Leipheimer showed blood values in the 2005 Tour de France so suspicious that he should have been ejected from the race.
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i agree re cuddles, however I think if Mancebo wasn't banned he'll get it. Not surprising about Levi really, always a bit iffy in my opinion.

Sad isn't it when you look at a list like that, the sport deserves better. Only one from that 9 hasn't been tainted in some way.
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Jan Ullrich banned for 2 years! (Backdated to 2005 and all results since then have been cancelled). I know he always was a bit dodgy but I liked him as a rider. Always seemed a bit dim though, he went through the rear window of his team car once when he was drafting and the car stopped!
I sort of enjoyed his comical descending.
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Cav doesn't make 3, got clipped and went down 200m out. Managed to cross the line but might be in trouble as he didn't put his lid back on.

Demare won the stage, Boonen the race and Flecha got GC 3rd.
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Fair play - consider me impressed.

Lance Armstrong took part in (half) Ironman Panama today and managed to come second to double Olympic medalist Bevan Docherty.

Only 30 seconds down on the swim he biked the second fastest time riding along with Chris Leito (while looking a lot more relaxed doing so say the reports) and then he dropped everyone on the run only for Olympic distance specialist Docherty to overhaul him well into the final kilometre.

Never thought he'd make top 5 and he's beaten some very good ironman specialists in that race.
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2 stages wins and an overall victory in the Tour Méditerranéen for John Tiernan Locke - his first wins of any note, I expect to see him on the podium again this year
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