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Old 02-05-2005, 02:08 PM
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This made me laugh about Terry Fenwick!

From www.football.guardian.co.uk...


Is Terry Fenwick the worst manager ever?

In this week's Knowledge: the worst manager ever, nearest Champions League finalists ever and is Sicknote the most injured player ever - the sequel. Send your questions and answers to knowledge@guardianunlimited.co.uk

Sean Ingle and Barry Glendenning
Monday June 16, 2003

WHO IS THE WORST MANAGER EVER?
"In light of a recent discussion about the legend that is Steve Nicol (played 20, won 4, lost 9 while in charge of Notts County in 1995), we started wondering who has the UK's worst managerial record," says James Armit.

Where else to start James, than with the legendary Mick McCarthy? At the moment, the Sunderland manager's record at the Stadium of Light stands at an astonishingly poor played nine, lost nine. "Though he didn't manage the hapless club for the whole season, he did manage to avoid scoring a single point in his tenure, and topped it off by bottoming out with the lowest points total in the top flight since the introduction of three points for a win," says a flabbergasted John Whitling.

True, John, true. But Mick's spell at Sunderland could yet improve - unlike Howard Wilkinson, whose record at the Stadium of Light was P 27, W 4, L15, D 8 - an average of 0.74 points per game. However, Wilko still comes a long way behind another of the game's gruff characters - ex-Wimbledon boss Peter Withe, who, as Wayne Ziants points out, won just once in 16 matches (one win, six draws, nine losses - an average of 0.56 points a game) while in charge of the Dons.

Meanwhile Chris Fry reckons Martin Hinshelwood, at his beloved Brighton and Hove Albion, is the worst manager of all time. "2 wins, 1 draw and 11 defeats in a row at the start of last season (an average of 0.50 points per game) before getting the boot."

But, incredibly, there is someone even worse. Step forward one Terrence Fenwick, whose reign at Northampton was little short of a disaster. "Speaking with no knowledge or authority whatsoever beyond that of a somewhat bitter Cobblers fan, I would suggest that Fenwick is worth looking at," says David Frost. "I gather he had some success in that hotbed of footballing excellence, the West Indies, but his brief tenure at Sixfields was worth a mighty two points from 21."

"Admittedly both his predecessor and successor were on the end of some hammerings either side of his reign," continues David, "but they had the knack of winning the odd game every now and then - a simple strategy that is generally sufficient in the nether regions of the Second Division to ensure survival."

Agreed, David. Agreed. We reckon Fenwick's record of P7, W0, D2, L5 at Northampton (an average of 0.28 points a game) is the most unsuccessful of any sacked manager. But if you know different, let us know...

As for longer-term disasters, Andrew Moorhouse reckons Alvin Martin deserves a mention. "While Wilkinson at Sunderland and Fenwick at Northampton had shocking reigns, they were both very brief. Alvin, on the other had managed the Blues for nearly two seasons, and his league record was played 83, won 22, drew 20 and lost 41 (1.03 points per game). Just 26.5% of his games ended in victory.

"He took us over just as we had gone down to the Second Division. In his first year we came rock bottom, and he left us at Easter the next year six points and about four places off the bottom of the Football League.

"What's more, we never got past the second round of any cup, and in his second season got knocked out of the FA Cup by the bottom team in the Conference (we were at home as well)."

And, as Jimmy Cricket would say, there's more.

"The fact that he was (maybe still is) employed as an 'expert' summariser on Talk Radio can still both make me smirk with the irony, and also make my blood boil with anger. I tried to phone in once to confront him about his qualifications to comment on other managers but they wouldn't let me. Rant over."

Fancy having a rant of your own? Send your worst manager suggestions to knowledge@guardianunlimited.co.uk.
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Maybe a millio mikes away but Ill always remember TF as a player coming down to Norbury Park on a sunday morning training me and the rest of the "Palace Guards".
OK I was about 12 and it was 1980 but for that reason alone I wont have a bad word said against him.
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