Grim Reaper v Ozeagle - The Ultimate Betting Showdown

[bunghole]

Alright people, you asked for it and here it is. After years of 'spirited competition' on the BT and BGT, we're finally going to get the answer to the question asked by man since the dawn of time - Who is the better punter out of Grim and Oz?

From 1/1/06 to 31/12/06, this thread will serve as the home of one of the most eagerly anticipated head to head duels in generations. Forget Borg v McEnroe, Woods v Singh, Balboa v Creed etc, this is the only one that really matters.

The rules are the same as those in the BGT, but for those that are unfamiliar with them, or those that still haven't grasped them after 2000+ posts and 2 years of BBS membership (Fredman) , here they are in simple terms:

1. Competition begins 1/1/06 and concludes on 31/12/06

2. Nominated bets must be at a price of $1.50 or longer

3. Nominated bets are for a 1 unit stake. For example, 1 unit on a winning choice @ $1.75 would result in .75 of a point being added to a competitors cumulative score. Conversely, 1 unit on a losing bet will result in a 1 point deduction from a competitors cumulative score.

4. At the end of the competiton on 31/12/06, the competitor with the highest cumulative score from their nominated bets throughout the year, will be declared the winner. The winner's prize will be a lifetime of bragging rights over their vanquished opponent (regs on the BT will know EXACTLY what a monumental prize this is ).

5. Further to Rule 4 and to give the winner a more tangible 'prize', the competitor who comes '2nd' must add the following to their BBS signature:

'Winner of the Purewinners Cup for betting helmetry in 2006'.

This 'notation' must remain on the competitor's BBS signature for a period of 1 year.

6. When posting prices, competitors must advise which agency is offering the specific price. ALL registered agencies are acceptable.

7. In their posts when nominating their bets, competitors must give an outline of the reasoning and research that led their choice. Examples of this are stats/historical info/info gleaned from other knowledgeable sources/personal opinion etc.

8. Time limits. Competitors must post their nominated bet prior to an event starting (obviously). For the purposes of this competition, any nominated bets that are posted with less than 3 hours notice before a match commences, will be declared null and void. Given that nominated bets should be well reasoned and researched, this rule shouldn't be a problem.

9. If a competitor posts a losing bet, they will be given an automatic yellow card.

10. To have their yellow card rescinded, the competitor's next bet must be a winner.

11. If the competitors next bet after being given a yellow card is a loser (i.e 2 losing bets in succession), they will be given a red card and an automatic one month suspension from the competition.

12. Competitors are banned from posting bets whilst serving their suspension

13. Upon serving their one month's suspension, competitors are eligible to rejoin the competition with a clean slate in terms of yellow and red cards.

14. 'Joker' bets. Competitors may nominate 1 'Joker bet' per month. A Joker bet is a nominated bet that carries double the value of a 'normal' bet, for the usual 1 unit stake.

15. A successful Joker bet will result in DOUBLE the winnings being added to a competitors cumulative score. For example, a winning Joker bet @ $1.75, will result in 1.50 points being added to a competitors cumulative total, instead of 0.75 as would normally be the case.

16. An unsuccessful Joker bet will result in 1 point being deducted from a competitors cumulative score (as per a normal bet), but will carry double the punishment of a normal bet i.e a straight red card and a one month's ban from posting bets in the competition.

17. If a competitor is already on a yellow card and posts a losing Joker bet, the yellow card will not carry forward to when the competitor's suspension is completed.

18 To distinguish a Joker bet from a normal bet, competitors must include the following in their post:

****JOKER BET****

19. Competitors cannot 'bank' Joker bets and MUST use their Joker bet within the applicable calendar month, otherwise their Joker bet will be forfeited.

20. In addition to ALL of the above (and just to add a bit of confusion) competitors are allowed to post a maximum of 3 long term bets, supplementary to their 'normal' bets during the year. A 'long term bet' is basically a bet in which a competitor nominates a team or individual to win a specific competition. For example, a long term bet may include Wakefield to win the English RL title .

21. Long term bets are for a stake of 1 unit as per 'normal' bets and must be at a price of $1.50 or better.

22. Outcomes of long term bets are 'settled' at the conclusion of the nominated competition.

23. If a competitor's long term bet wins, their 'winnings' are added to their cumulative score.

24. If a long term bet loses, 1 unit is deducted from the competitors score.

25. There is no penalty in terms of yellow or red cards for losing long term bets.

26. All long term bets must be settled prior to midnight GMT on 31/12/06.

27. Disputes. Any disputes or protests lodged by a competitor will be referred to the Disputes Tribunal for consideration. The DT will comprise of 3 regulars from the BT. Membership of the DT will be advised prior to the competition commencing on 1/1/06, following a call for nominations on the BT.

ALL decisions handed down by the DT will be final and no further correspondence will be entered in to.

So them's the rules.

Simple innit?

Now that the rules are in place, we await with great anticipation for the contest to begin.

Best of luck to both competitors and in the words of the immortal US boxing ring announcer Michael Buffer.....................

"Ladies and Gentlemen, LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLET'S GET READY TO RUMBALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[mik59]

Do we get pictures too?

[Men At Work]

Originally posted by bunghole
they will be given a red card and an automatic one month suspension from the competition

That means neither of them will get to post more than two dozen bets a year. Can we make it a fortnight suspension but the non-offender is also allowed a 'free' bet where they are not carded if they lose on it (sort of like a free hit in the one-day cricket). At the very least it should keep the level of clownage to the consistently high level attained on the BT.

[bunghole]

Originally posted by Men At Work
That means neither of them will get to post more than two dozen bets a year.

Why would that be MaW?

[Men At Work]

Originally posted by bunghole
Why would that be MaW?

January 1 : Grim posts NFL over: missed FG puts him on a yellow. oz posts NHL annex: insipid performance puts him on a yellow.

January 2: Grim posts NFL under: 47-0 after first quarter so red card. oz posts smashed crab to win in the Hopman Cup: Russian mafia decree otherwise so red card.

Tumbleweeds on here for the next month.

Repeat eleven times.

[bunghole]

Originally posted by Men At Work
January 1 : Grim posts NFL over: missed FG puts him on a yellow. oz posts NHL annex: insipid performance puts him on a yellow.

January 2: Grim posts NFL under: 47-0 after first quarter so red card. oz posts smashed crab to win in the Hopman Cup: Russian mafia decree otherwise so red card.

Tumbleweeds on here for the next month.

Repeat eleven times.

Cynic. If that happens then the clownage will come from all the grief that the rest of us give them for a month.

Speaking of clownage, how will the competitors EVER live it down if they BOTH end the year in the minus?

[Men At Work]

Does the loser get the Purewinners Cup?

[bunghole]

Originally posted by Men At Work
Does the loser get the Purewinners Cup?

Good suggestion.

[Strathclyde Eagle]

Originally posted by Men At Work
January 1 : Grim posts NFL over: missed FG puts him on a yellow. oz posts NHL annex: insipid performance puts him on a yellow.

January 2: Grim posts NFL under: 47-0 after first quarter so red card. oz posts smashed crab to win in the Hopman Cup: Russian mafia decree otherwise so red card.

Tumbleweeds on here for the next month.

Repeat eleven times.

If that happens I'm locking the thread and making it a sticky for everyone to see.

[Flat Noodle]

Originally posted by Men At Work
Does the loser get the Purewinners Cup?

Very nice, MAW ~

[bunghole]

Poll closes 31 Jan 2006.

[Strathclyde Eagle]

Threads merged before c_block could add his version of Christmas spirit to the proceedings.

[Stigma]

Not bad!

[bunghole]

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Threads merged before c_block could add his version of Christmas spirit to the proceedings.

[Flat Noodle]

I have a feeling this thread is gonna be an Epic ~

Great job, Bung !!!

[Men At Work]

Since I know both of the participants I've had to go for the diplomatic "don't care" option. BTW what happens in the case of a tie?

[bunghole]

Originally posted by Men At Work
BTW what happens in the case of a tie?

They'll share the Purewinners Cup.

[ozeagle]

really no need for a contest, we can see what the educated few think.

[Grim Reaper]

That's the beauty of it oz. As you yourself quoted after Australian Idol

"99% of the world are idiots!! "

[Grim Reaper]

I realise this thread was done when I was away but was thinking in that time about a couple of rules that might be incorporated.

One JOKER bet whereby any winnings are doubled. Obviously the joker is 'played' at the time of the original post.

Somehow incorprating 3/4 long termers whereby they don't get you red carded if they fail given that some may settle in August (Challenge Cup for example,) some in December (tennis year bets)

For instance if I want to place a tennis long termer, then it'll be mid-November before it pays out. Under Goldmine rules that could clog up my 2 current bets etc. If we had a max of 4 long termers that were separate from the every day stuff then we still have this 'string to our bows' as long term bets are as much a part of disciplined gambling as daily stuff.

Would be intersting if say I was a point ahead of oz as we hit December 10th but oz's long term bet on Blake to be top US player in the ATP was due to be added at year end, meaning I had to carry on playing in order to win.

Think about it and see what you reckon.