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Old 02-06-2008, 01:19 PM
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Michael Johnson was a freak. 19.32, 2 100m splits of 9.66 average. And he was never accused of drugs, so why shouldnt Bolt be like that considering he is a 200m runner already.
It is my understanding that this is a bit of a red herring. The slowest part of the race is the start and pick up. In running this time Johnson only had to start once, the second 100m had a "flying start". Not saying this isn't an amazing record, but it's not as amazing as equating it to a 9.66 100m. The world record for 4x100 is 37.4 secs, or 100m splits of only just over 9.3 secs, but 3 of the four have "flying starts" so can be compared to a simple 100m. This doesn't work on 400m etc as the distance requires the runner to slow.
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My point is that they probably would should it become legal.
What I am implying is that pure inducing of anabolic steroids are now only a small part of what athletes who take PED's
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I apologise to pauldrulez if it came across as patronising, it wasn't meant to, but it really is beyond belief that he has done this clean.
I won't go on, as one of my athletics threads was removed when another poster claimed a certain 400m & 800m champion wasn't clean, all I will say is that it is suspicious beyond belief.
which athlete was that?
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Old 02-06-2008, 01:47 PM
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I don't think he ever ran a world record at only his fifth attempt at a distance (we can exclude the comical 300m from this arguement).
Im not saying he did, Im just saying that he is a freak and his records will never be beaten, not just in all your lifetimes but mine as well.
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I apologise to pauldrulez if it came across as patronising, it wasn't meant to, but it really is beyond belief that he has done this clean.
I won't go on, as one of my athletics threads was removed when another poster claimed a certain 400m & 800m champion wasn't clean, all I will say is that it is suspicious beyond belief.
It sounded patronising but I didnt take it as patronising. So dont worry about that. Who was the champion?
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It is my understanding that this is a bit of a red herring. The slowest part of the race is the start and pick up. In running this time Johnson only had to start once, the second 100m had a "flying start". Not saying this isn't an amazing record, but it's not as amazing as equating it to a 9.66 100m. The world record for 4x100 is 37.4 secs, or 100m splits of only just over 9.3 secs, but 3 of the four have "flying starts" so can be compared to a simple 100m. This doesn't work on 400m etc as the distance requires the runner to slow.
I know that. Obviously he done a 9.94 or something like that followed by a 9.4 or something, but even so that is incredibly quick.
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The current 200m record is astounding and I didn't think anyone would get near it for years. However, over the past couple of seasons quite a few different people have gone under 20s which hadn't really been seen for a while. Now I wouldn't be surprised at all if the 200m record went in the next few years.
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It is such a shame its got to this, with all the speculation about runners being clean or not, but a little bit of me really does wanna see just how fast/far/high these pumped up freaks can go!
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I think he did it clean.

Bolt is huge. Surely the mechanics of the human body would point to why he has broken the record? Longer limbs, longer stride, the bigger you are the more powerful you're likely to be..........

As for Michael Johnson's record, have a look at it again. The guy had slowed up so much as he was crossing the line. If he had been going all out it would have been 2/10ths of a second faster still! That is incredible
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It would be astonishing if Johnson's record falls. In my eyes the 200m world record is the outstanding one in athletics. I simply do not believe it can be beaten in my life time. Wariner is already being mentored to beat the 400m in time by Johnson himself. I just cant imagine an athlete beating a 9.66 average 100 metre splits.
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''in most of the quantifiable Olympic sports, the era of world records is drawing to a close. “We started our study in 1896, when we estimate people were operating at 75% of their physiological capacity. We are now at 99%. When we say there will be no more world records after 2060, it should not be forgotten that in about half of the events, there will be no world records after 2027''

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Flo-Jo's 200m record is absolutely outrageous.

The long jump seems to get stuck. First Bob Beamon for 20 years plus and now Mike Powell, the current one remaining unchanged since 1991.
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The triple jump could possibly join the group of world records to stand for a very long time as well.
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''in most of the quantifiable Olympic sports, the era of world records is drawing to a close. “We started our study in 1896, when we estimate people were operating at 75% of their physiological capacity. We are now at 99%. When we say there will be no more world records after 2060, it should not be forgotten that in about half of the events, there will be no world records after 2027''

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Flo-Jo's 200m record is absolutely outrageous.

The long jump seems to get stuck. First Bob Beamon for 20 years plus and now Mike Powell, the current one remaining unchanged since 1991.
The being at 99% may be true but surely the average man in 2060 will be naturally bigger stronger etc?

as for the long jump the world records are a bit freakish. Beamon broke the record at high altitude and then the Powell/lewis jumps where at tokyo which produced a number of records in speed events.
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Women's 400 metres record also slightly 'suspect'
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alot of the womens records are suspect
100/200 m Flo Jo
400 m Marita Koch
800m Jarmila Kratochvilova
1500 m Qu Yunxia
3000/10k Wang Junixia
all suspect beyond belief plus the relays and all the women's throwing events and all the swimming events held by East Bloc/Chinese athletes from the 70's/80's and 90's , whats always concerned me about the IAAF and the IOC is the demonising of the great Ben Johnson who won the greatest 100m race of all time (only 1 runner was clean in that 100m final and it wasn't Lewis or Chtistie)
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When you list them out like that you are spot on. Can't see a clean one anywhere there. Terrible shame.
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Just seen him run at Crystal Palace. Sub 20seconds in the 200 without really trying.

World Record is definitely for the taking in China.
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Yeah he eased up before he got to the line - but he still has 0.44 seconds to go. If were to beat the world record in the final he could end up 10 metres ahead of the whole field
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