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Old 12-08-2008, 05:28 PM
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Precisely, even more likely that it was clean.
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...an athlete can reap the benfits of drug abuse years after they have stopped taking them.

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Did anyone see the Colin Jackson programme which touched somewhat on genetics and the popularity of high school athletics in Jamaica. It was possibly a bit simplistic/naive, but the combination of genetics and their environment did offer an alternative to the PED-assisted means of high performance.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:24 PM
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So every athlete is a drugs cheat then?

As Strathers says, most of the Jamaicans are good at their sprinting with womens and mens.

There is never 100% proof but they might as well just cancel the Olympics if some people cant accept that he may/may not be clean.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:36 PM
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He may be clean, I don't believe he is.

I'll expect him to be running 9.55 when he peaks in a few years then.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:47 PM
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They reckon that the top 3 have run sub 9.7 anyway. I cant remember who said it, may have been Wallace Spearmon saying that they could all run 9.6 which I think is highly unlikely even with major training routines. But should someone do that then there will always be questions
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:49 PM
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American 200m star Wallace Spearmon believes all three sprinters could run under 9.70 seconds.

"I honestly think Bolt can run 9.6 seconds, Asafa can run 9.6 and a healthy Tyson can run 9.6," he said.

"Four athletes ran faster than 9.90 seconds in 2004 but that might be like sixth place here."
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Old 20-08-2008, 02:27 PM
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Got my breath back, so pleased to see the 100/200 19.30 ,what were the splits? his first 100 was breathtaking
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Old 20-08-2008, 02:34 PM
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did he slow down for the finish like the 100m race?
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Old 20-08-2008, 02:35 PM
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did he slow down for the finish like the 100m race?
no he went at full steam
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Old 20-08-2008, 02:35 PM
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no he went at full steam
Which still looked like a jog
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I think this will stand for a little while, I can't see anyone going below 9.70, that would be a phenominal achievement!

Likewise, I don't see anyone breaking the 200m record in my lifetime either.
What ever you think, you should always bet on the opposite

P.s. I hope you were still alive to witness it
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Even more impressive - he did it running headwind.
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I am not going to suggest that Bolt is "juicing" or not, but, this is a games where very few track and field world records have fallen, which has me thinking that it is becoming harder and harder to "hide" the use of drugs.
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Why do you ignore them too? He's taken test after test and all have been shown to be negative, so as far as we know it's believed he's clean?

Like you have said, he's 21, are you saying he was possibly on drugs for a few years then stopped taking them a couple of years ago? When would he have stopped to be able to reap the benefits? Cause he was breaking records at junior championships as well, surely being tested there too.

Maybe he was being pumped full of PED's with his chicken nuggets and smiley faces when he was a 5 year old

I appreciate that a fair few have been 'outed' in years gone by, but maybe, just maybe, a genuinely super fast holds the record legitimately.
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Why do you ignore them too? He's taken test after test and all have been shown to be negative, so as far as we know it's believed he's clean?
Not really the point, if hes taking them then they arent being shown up on tests, just like marion jones etc did for many years untill the testing became more advanced
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had my doubts when he did his 9.72 but I do believe he's clean. I think he's just the first tall sprinter to get his legs going at the same speed as the shorter guys. That makes all the difference in this case.

I think he's remodeled what we think a sprinter should look like
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Incredible performance from Bolt, even more impressive after seeing that he was running into a headwind.

Thats what the Olympics are all about!
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I am not going to suggest that Bolt is "juicing" or not, but, this is a games where very few track and field world records have fallen, which has me thinking that it is becoming harder and harder to "hide" the use of drugs.
i don't think too many track and field event world records usually do get broken in the Olympics. There are a number of reasons for that, such as the lack of pace makers that are often used at grnad prix meetings etc, the dependence on the speed of the track, the weather etc being right at the time, the tendency for races other than sprints to be tactical, the need to go through a number of rounds, nerves...and perhaps even the lack of any sponsors bonuses for a record to be broken.
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Fantastic to watch both of his world record breaking performances

However a bit sad to see that the original silver and bronze medalists were disqualified
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