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Old 20-08-2008, 06:15 PM
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I got the impression Michael Johnson is a bit p issed off - although trying very hard to appear not to be!
Just seen his interview with Gaby Yorath, he seems OK with the fact that it was his record for 12 years and that it was not broken whilst he was still competing.
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Old 20-08-2008, 06:43 PM
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He said it wasnt his record anymore as he isnt competing and he wanted him to break it as much as any other.
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Old 20-08-2008, 06:49 PM
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no he went at full steam
It was awesome to watch.

When you watch the head on camera replay you see him glancing at the clock down the straight twice - he obviously had splits he knew he had to hit to take the record (and I guess if he knew he was .2 or .3 down he would have eased up)

The last 20m he just gritted his teeth, dug deep and drove even harder. It was immense determination.

It goes to show how amazing Johnson's run was (as Johnson could have shaved time off that in Atlanta as he wasn't running 100% at the line), but Bolt will just get better and better.
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Old 20-08-2008, 07:10 PM
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Is he a "clean" athlete though?
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Old 20-08-2008, 08:48 PM
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Is he a "clean" athlete though?
In a minority if he was
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No one can be sure if he is "clean" but testing is becoming increasingly rigorous world-wide, and his phenomenal speed could well be explained
by his exceptional natural attributes, especially his height, length of
stride, balance, cardio-vascular system, temperament & intelligence.

Combine all these genetic factors with his own desire and will-to-win
& the expertise of his coaches in Jamaica and one has some reasons
for his superlative achievements.

Injury apart, there seems to be nothing standing in Bolt's way from
his setting records over the next few years that could last two or
three decades.

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Old 20-08-2008, 09:03 PM
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In a minority if he was
Your concrete evidence for this assertion please?
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Old 20-08-2008, 09:20 PM
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If you think he is a drugs cheat and all good athletes are cheats then why do people bother watching it. Why dont you just piss off and let those of us that actually care about the Olympics more than the money-grabbing pricks that play football watch the sports and the spectacle that is Usain Bolt.
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Old 20-08-2008, 09:32 PM
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I wonder how often Tiger Woods has been independently drug tested, both in and out of competition, the past few years?

Oh, never. A bit suspcious to me.
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Old 20-08-2008, 09:38 PM
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And Bolt has been tested 7 times during this Olympics alone. The Jamaican team has been tested 42 times.
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Old 20-08-2008, 10:01 PM
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can those please post another thread about whether his is clean or not?, in the meantime I'm applauding the guy, what we have seen this week is something so special
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Agreed.

Its only 1 or 2% complaining about him being too good so he must be on drugs. Maybe they should watch the other events like cycling where we have dominated, maybe they are on drugs as well, or Adlington or the Rowers or Ohuruogu.

I am not accusing these, but they all won gold medals and therefore must be on drugs
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Not really the point, if hes taking them then they arent being shown up on tests, just like marion jones etc did for many years untill the testing became more advanced
So basically he's guilty until proven innocent, then when proven innocent in a drugs test, he's still guilty until a 'better' drugs test can prove him innocent.

All the drugs cheats really have tarnished the sport of athletics as no one will ever be behind a record holder totally clean again without suspicion, it's quite sad really.
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I wonder how often Tiger Woods has been independently drug tested, both in and out of competition, the past few years?

Oh, never. A bit suspcious to me.
Has he never been tested? I don't know.

I make my living teaching the game and still can't find where it could be an advantage to take drugs of any kind.
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can those please post another thread about whether his is clean or not?, in the meantime I'm applauding the guy, what we have seen this week is something so special
It sure is. He is a fantastic athelete.

Ben Johnson was too. As was Marion Jones and many others.
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Has he never been tested? I don't know.

I make my living teaching the game and still can't find where it could be an advantage to take drugs of any kind.
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Apparently Tiger has tested himself...!
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Apparently Tiger has tested himself...!
LOL. In the true spirit of golf -- you are your own referee after all.
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As was Marion Jones and many others.
she got caught dopping, 8 years later...
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she got caught dopping, 8 years later...
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Has he never been tested? I don't know.

I make my living teaching the game and still can't find where it could be an advantage to take drugs of any kind.
I admire the code of conduct amongst golfers. But part of that, for some golfers, must surely be possibility of discovery. Money always taints things. So why wouldn't some try things not tested or likely to be discovered?

Can you seriously say, that at the very top level, drugs would not help recovery from injury, help them train better, increase fast-twitch muscle fibre?

Why wouldn't this be as helpful in golf as in other sports, particularly as it becomes more 'athletic' (if I am correct in that latter assumption)?
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