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Old 08-07-2014, 06:25 PM
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Gay cake row

Is this discrimination? Christian baker refuses to make cake for gay wedding.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:30 PM
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Fuss about nothing. Baker does not believe in homo sexuality, find another baker.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:31 PM
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I'd say it's not. If they refused to bake a cake of any sort for queers, that would be wrong, but saying no to the message is fair enough.

Not sure if the article covers this point, but I don't believe gay marriage is legal in NI anyway. So they surely can't be successfully sued for something that the government doesn't even allow...?
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:32 PM
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Their choice. They can say no to anyone who walks through their door. End of story
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Fuss about nothing. Baker does not believe in homo sexuality, find another baker.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:41 PM
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People should be allowed to stand behind their moral beliefs.

However such a shame they are so ******* stupid in holding them.

A Religion of whatever hue should stand for love and acceptance above everything else (certainly the message that is put forward by most) so the hypocrisy is quite laughable.

However prosecution is also laughable, as they are acting in a way they believe to be right, and not in a deliberately illegal way. They believe they are sending out the right message despite that message being warped.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:43 PM
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It's nice that politics in northern ireland these day is about whether you can have a gay cake or not.
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If the baker had refused to make any sort of cake for the gay group or serve them simply because they were gay, that would be discrimination.

He simply exercised his own rights to his own beliefs by stating that he wouldn't decorate the cake with what they wanted as it went against his beliefs.

There are beliefs on both sides which, in a free society, should be respected (you may not agree with them) - why are the gay group trying to force the baker to go against his belief by suing him?


If a Palace supporting baker was asked by a group of Brighton fans to decorate a cake with an image of Tony Pulis being bummed by the Brighton team, the baker may well say he wouldn't do it....he wouldn't be discriminating against them, merely exercising his own rights to refuse a particular job
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A Religion of whatever hue should stand for love and acceptance above everything else (certainly the message that is put forward by most) so the hypocrisy is quite laughable.
Since when is it up to a non-believer such as your good self to decide the rules for religions? Just saying.

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It's nice that politics in northern ireland these day is about whether you can have a gay cake or not.
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It's nice that politics in northern ireland these day is about whether you can have a gay cake or not.
Yes and that we have moved on from the drug cake.

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I asked a builder to give me a quote and he didn't turn up (no im not gay)!.. Am i due compensation? No the builder just didn't want my work so i moved on and guess what???? I got another ******* builder ffs
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Since when is it up to a non-believer such as your good self to decide the rules for religions? Just saying.

(Though it would be nice if a little more love and acceptance were shown.)
I am not deciding the rules Jules just thought that the underlying message of most religions was love and acceptance. Which is no bad thing, just the shame it is not really practised when challenged by the disgusting behaviour of homosexuals who like to stick their weapons up the arse of their lover for the night.
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Agree with those above who say that this is a fuss over nothing. If people hold true to their own morals and that precludes them from making something for someone that they are against then it is their right to refuse to do it IMO.

The question changes tack too quickly in these debates and focuses on whether their beliefs are archaic or not - that is irrelevant. You may disagree with them but it is their right to hold them and to refuse work because of them (the couple were given a full refund anyway).

An interesting question that popped into my head is if it was a Muslim bakers who refused the cake manufacture on the same grounds would it have made the news? I argue not. Without wanting to ignite Mat ov's 'identity dogma' debate, it does seem to be something that is easier to criticise publicly on the basis that they are Christians holding what many would say is an awful view.
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Fuss about nothing. Baker does not believe in homo sexuality, find another baker.
No go to the press and do a me, me, me.
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Can you imagine the sky commentators making some reference to South Londoners enjoying their day out - cut to a 40 year old in full Palace kit dribbling whilst a mexican wave flies past.
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