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Old 14-04-2009, 01:48 PM
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There seems to be a greater acceptance of fans of the more successful football clubs if they are deemed to be from that clubs catchment area. i.e. that its more acceptable for someone from Liverpool to support that club if they are from that area.

This got me thinking however. I am a passionate Palace fan and do what i can to see/contribute to the club, but i'm not from the area. Indeed, i support Palace only due to my family links. Likewise, my three best friends passionatley support Manchester United, Celtic and Liverpool (3 differenet people; not one person supporting all 3) due to family links. However, they will be deemed so called "glory" supporters by some, for the reason that they are not from the catchment area of the club, and that their clubs enjoy success.

Therefore, my question is, if Palace were a successful club would i too be looked down upon in the same way as people from areas outside the clubs deemed catchment area are? And, is it just the reason that Palace are not successful that i'm not looked down upon and instead lauded for supporting a less successful team?
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Old 14-04-2009, 01:52 PM
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Why did your friends' families start supporting those 3 clubs? Are they from the area or are they glory hunters from way back when?
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Why did your friends' families start supporting those 3 clubs? Are they from the area or are they glory hunters from way back when?

I would assume that their famlies started supporting their respective sides due to glory hunting yes. However, the origins of my Palace support are glory hunting in that my brother started supporting the team in 1990 due to the FA Cup run. If it were not for him supporting Palace i doubt i would of cared when the team went into administration (the event which triggered my support of the club).
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I think you are the biggest glory hunter out of all three of you

See, knowing the people i can easily say that they would support their clubs no matter what, so i honestly think the only difference between me and them and indeed me and someone like me who supports Manuchster United and lives in Kent is mereley that his club are successful thus he is seen as a scummy bandwagon supporter whilst mine is not and so im not looked at in the same light.
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its a tough one to call, but i would say that when we do eventually win the f.a cup, prem league, champs league and league cup, then yes you will be placed into the "glory hunter" bracket.
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Its different to you as well. The fact that you live in Ireland with a league that to be honest isn't of a very good standard. Over here when we get people living within a mile from the ground, who physically hate the local team for the simple reason that they're not very good. That just pisses me off.
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Yes you would be. Qualifications for supporting should be localish. Family or friends supporting the club.Or even when you lived in another area and moved. I call all so called fans who do not come from the above who always seem to support the top 6 clubs Glory Hunters.How many does anyone know who does not live locally who supports Leyton O or even Colchester for instance. No-one I bet.
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So, if the strength of the support of my team is adjudged on the success of my team, surely we should not call all supporters of successful sides not from that catchment area "glory supporters", as they may have supported the team when they were relatively unsucessful or indeed may support the team irregardless of success as it is "their" team in the same way as Palace are my team irregardless of success. So, support of teams is an individual thing, therefore should blanketly calling someone a glory supporter just based on their location and team they support stop?
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but i'm not from the area. Indeed, i support Palace only due to my family links.
Same here,lived in Essex most of my life,but as a makeweight I also support my local non league team and go and see them,actually see them more than Palace.
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I think you could be labelled a "Misery Hunter"

Supporting a team due to family links is fine, I think most people support the same team as their dad regardless of where they grow up.
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Tyrone, what are your family links? Lots of Man Utd fans support Man Utd because of "family links" - those links are often no more than "my Dad supports Utd". Glory hunters (and wankers) the lot of them.
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My brother supports Palace and he inherited that from my uncle. Not sure how my uncle started supporting Palace though. I have no family links to the area Palace play in though, the links are merely relatives supporting Palace.

Mellors, do you think they are they merely glory hunters as their team is successful? My whole point in this thread is to suggest that its not clear cut whether someone is a glory hunter or not; and the individual fan may deserve more respect dependent on how good of a fan they actually are, rather than being lambasted soleley upon the variables of where they are from and who they support.
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There seems to be a greater acceptance of fans of the more successful football clubs if they are deemed to be from that clubs catchment area. i.e. that its more acceptable for someone from Liverpool to support that club if they are from that area.

This got me thinking however. I am a passionate Palace fan and do what i can to see/contribute to the club, but i'm not from the area. Indeed, i support Palace only due to my family links. Likewise, my three best friends passionatley support Manchester United, Celtic and Liverpool (3 differenet people; not one person supporting all 3) due to family links. However, they will be deemed so called "glory" supporters by some, for the reason that they are not from the catchment area of the club, and that their clubs enjoy success.

Therefore, my question is, if Palace were a successful club would i too be looked down upon in the same way as people from areas outside the clubs deemed catchment area are? And, is it just the reason that Palace are not successful that i'm not looked down upon and instead lauded for supporting a less successful team?

Funny to think if I moved to somewhere like Mansfield or Oxford, my son (who will be a staunch Palace fans wherever he lives) would probably get the same kind of stick for being a glory hunter/non follower of his local team as I give current Croydon based Man Utd "fans"
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There seems to be a greater acceptance of fans of the more successful football clubs if they are deemed to be from that clubs catchment area. i.e. that its more acceptable for someone from Liverpool to support that club if they are from that area.

This got me thinking however. I am a passionate Palace fan and do what i can to see/contribute to the club, but i'm not from the area. Indeed, i support Palace only due to my family links. Likewise, my three best friends passionatley support Manchester United, Celtic and Liverpool (3 differenet people; not one person supporting all 3) due to family links. However, they will be deemed so called "glory" supporters by some, for the reason that they are not from the catchment area of the club, and that their clubs enjoy success.

Therefore, my question is, if Palace were a successful club would i too be looked down upon in the same way as people from areas outside the clubs deemed catchment area are? And, is it just the reason that Palace are not successful that i'm not looked down upon and instead lauded for supporting a less successful team?
It's not about whether you're from an area or not. The question is would you still have been a fan of that club if they were shit (indeed, would you continue to be a fan if they became shit). The suspicion is that with glory hunters the answer, even they deny it, would be no.

When you support a shit team people know you're just a nutjob and respect you for it.

Room for people from all over at Palace. And because we're shit we know they're proper fans
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It's not about whether you're from an area or not. The question is would you still have been a fan of that club if they were shit (indeed, would you continue to be a fan if they became shit). The suspicion is that with glory hunters the answer, even they deny it, would be no.

When you support a shit team people know you're just a nutjob and respect you for it.

Room for people from all over at Palace. And because we're shit we know they're proper fans

But if Palace become good, am i suddenly a bandwagon/glory supporter? or is it the case whereby i supported Palace whilst they were shit that i am tolerated?

For example, my mate supports Chelsea. He supported them when they are relatively shit (round 1991 he started), but now he is tarred with the stigma of a glory supporter simply on people finding out he supports Chelsea and is not from the area. Is that fair?

Should we not stop tarring all fans based solely on these variables and delve a bit deeper?
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I spoke to someone recently who lived in Cornwall, has a dad who has a season ticket at Arsenal but he supports Palace. All because he liked our kit when he was about 5 apparently. Thought that was rather nice
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