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These can be used as thin clients as well, cutting electric costs
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These can be used as thin clients as well, cutting electric costs

I recognise the concept of thin client (can you believe we were talking abou it already in the late 80s). Could you expand on your thinking though in relation to the Pi?
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http://rpitc.blogspot.com

its when a client machine boots up and loads a remote desktop/system, such citrix etc.
All the work is done on the server but it looks and feels like its being done locally on your machine.
This sounds a pain but if you use this method with over 60 desktops then saving can be achieved long term.
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What age do reckon these would be suitable for?

I'm totally non-techie, but don't want my kids to be; my two eldest (8 and 5) have ICT lessons at school and have had positive comments on their reports, but I'd like to give them a bit more licence to explore / innovate. I'm guessing this might just about be alright for the 8 year old, but too early for the 5 year old?

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What age do reckon these would be suitable for?

I'm totally non-techie, but don't want my kids to be; my two eldest (8 and 5) have ICT lessons at school and have had positive comments on their reports, but I'd like to give them a bit more licence to explore / innovate. I'm guessing this might just about be alright for the 8 year old, but too early for the 5 year old?

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Should be perfect for your 8 year old, possibly your 5 year old too - one way to find out I guess.

The whole purpose behind the RasPi is to get kids interested in programming etc, so I would say the earlier you get them started the better
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My 12 and 14 year olds are totally uninterested at the moment. To them it's just got a couple of mobile phone games on it that you can't even play because the bottom of the window is inaccessible. (Don't know why.)

I'm hoping they might be useful to hook into some genuine ICT work at school when the right topics come up.

But Grandma's fantasy that the Pi itself would fire their curiosity is way off the mark for my two.
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Thanks to both Russ and Away. I think I'll go for it - 17 week delivery means we might just make Christmas!
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Thanks to both Russ and Away. I think I'll go for it - 17 week delivery means we might just make Christmas!
17 Weeks...Ouch!

I'm guessing that is from RS Components? Apparently via Element14 the delivery time is 'only' 5 weeks, might be worth taking a look there.
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My twin boys were given one for their 11th birthday in August. The last couple of months have been a whirlwind of holidays and starting at secondary school, but we finally got round to setting it all up on Sunday. Fortunately their uncle also gave them a really clear user guide without which I would not have known where to start (I am ok with computers but probably a little behind where Away is - I did a bit of programming at university 25 years ago, nothing since).

I'm pleased to say they loved everything about it. The setting it up & getting it actually working, creating user accounts and then they have both had goes with Scratch (kids introduction to the concept of programming) and the Python editor that comes pre-loaded. Last night when they'd finished their homework they both asked could they try some more programmimng on the Pi rather than watch TV. Amazing!

So, very early days for us, and I suspect my more inquisitive son will stay interested for longer than the other - but we'll see.

I think the next challenge for us is to see if we can save stuff to my NAS and if we can print things over the network to the printer connected to my desktop. Both of those would turn the Pi into a PC that they can use for homework, which would be great, and save me forking out for another laptop!
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So what does this thing actually do?
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Is this the kind of thing you are looking for?

http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/...e-raspberry-pi

The book my boys were given is the full version of this guide - which is about £11 hard copy from Amazon. It's very clear and helpful. We've jumped around in it and some chapters are as-yet unread - but without it I'd have been lost!!
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So what does this thing actually do?

The simple answer is it is a tiny PC that can actually do quite a lot considering it only costs £20 or thereabouts. We had it hooked up to the TV and were browsing the internet on it within 10 minutes of opening the package - using an old keyboard and mouse that we had in the house. It would quite happily run open-source office software, for example. Or see the XBMC examples above.

But the real intention of teh people behind it is that it will help kids realise that there is more to computers than a glossy user-experience and using software that someone else wrote for you. The hope is a new generation of programmers will be created.

My boys have only used it for about 6 hours and they have already both learnt tons about what goes on behind the scenes in a computer. It has been a real eye-opener for them.
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My twin boys were given one for their 11th birthday in August. The last couple of months have been a whirlwind of holidays and starting at secondary school, but we finally got round to setting it all up on Sunday. Fortunately their uncle also gave them a really clear user guide without which I would not have known where to start (I am ok with computers but probably a little behind where Away is - I did a bit of programming at university 25 years ago, nothing since).

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So, very early days for us, and I suspect my more inquisitive son will stay interested for longer than the other - but we'll see.

I think the next challenge for us is to see if we can save stuff to my NAS and if we can print things over the network to the printer connected to my desktop. Both of those would turn the Pi into a PC that they can use for homework, which would be great, and save me forking out for another laptop!
Great news

Really glad they've taken to it so well.
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The simple answer is it is a tiny PC that can actually do quite a lot considering it only costs £20 or thereabouts. We had it hooked up to the TV and were browsing the internet on it within 10 minutes of opening the package - using an old keyboard and mouse that we had in the house. It would quite happily run open-source office software, for example. Or see the XBMC examples above.

But the real intention of teh people behind it is that it will help kids realise that there is more to computers than a glossy user-experience and using software that someone else wrote for you. The hope is a new generation of programmers will be created.

My boys have only used it for about 6 hours and they have already both learnt tons about what goes on behind the scenes in a computer. It has been a real eye-opener for them.

awesome!!

I want to get my 8 year old into python. I write a bit (badly) and would love to start hacking with them.

of course, you don't need a Pi to run or learn Python
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I learnt Logo first then Basic and Fourth before moving onto Z80 and then 68000 assembler. Not sure where to start, anyone else got any good recommendations?
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