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Old 16-04-2012, 06:38 PM
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I've now had time to look at Section 127 of the 2003 Act in more detail.

It really is quite clear...

A person is guilty of an offence if he—
(a)sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or
(b)causes any such message or matter to be so sent.

A person is guilty of an offence if, for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another, he—
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(b)causes such a message to be sent; or
(c)persistently makes use of a public electronic communications network.

It's barely a new Act, and one that is designed to stop remote nastiness and bullying.

it may be clear, but that doesn't mean it is right. If I were to post on twitter the address of the PM, including a pic of 10 Downing Street, then suggest to others that they should send shit to the occupant (which, obvoiusly, I wouldn't!) should that really be enough to put me behind bars?
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Old 16-04-2012, 06:41 PM
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it may be clear, but that doesn't mean it is right. If I were to post on twitter the address of the PM, including a pic of 10 Downing Street, then suggest to others that they should send shit to the occupant (which, obvoiusly, I wouldn't!) should that really be enough to put me behind bars?

Given that it is a) an entirely anti-social act that b) encourages others to break the law as well, it is readily deserving of punishment. (Behind bars is neither here nor there).

What you should question is what sort of society do you want to live in; one where people register their protest in an unpleasant and bullying way? Why should elected politicians be punished in this way? All you would be doing is throwing a childish strop; there are many other legal and effective ways to protest. Watch Ghandi.
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well here are the offensive tweets - as published all over the web

'Which c*** lives in a house like this. Answers on a postcard to #bexleycouncil.'
'It’s silly posting a picture of a house on Twitter without an address, that will come later. Please feel free to post actual s**t.'

I'd like to think that the vast majority of people are intelligent enough not to carry out Mr Kerlan's request.
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well here are the offensive tweets - as published all over the web

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Yup.

I don't see what difference that makes.
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Yup.

I don't see what difference that makes.

If those tweets really are the reason for someone being found guilty then perhaps James has had a point about certain posts on the BBS. Loads of members, certainly including myself, have posted worse on here.
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Old 16-04-2012, 07:33 PM
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here are a handful of tweets received by Alan Davies following his comments about the Hillborough disaster:

You made fun of dead people so the logical thing to do is make you one of the dead people. Speak of fighting fire with fire...

Absolutely shocking comments from you all respect lost **** just try going to liverpool now you will ****ing die

Go kill yourself you horrible ****, disrepecting people who lost their lives, come to liverpool so you get what you deserve

Then I'll kick you in what PASSES for your b****cks & pour paint over the grave of someone VERY dear to you - LAUGHING yes?

Tit Go And Diee, u Sick Minded ****

You ****ing absolute ******, so glad your mum died, LOLOLOLOLOLOL

now, I don't think that any of these are worse than those posted by Mr Kerlan (aka Olly Cromwell) but as far as I am aware no one has been taken to court as a result
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Interesting observation Firesign.

Is there a difference Maz? (question only aimed at you as the one person I know who has actually read the legislation concerned)
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I'm sure a lawyer would be happy to take his money for a consultation.

Do you know any lawyers? Maybe a republican one who has recently retired from the hurly-burly of real life and has time to waste/invoice?

Didn't he try his hand at PC support for a while too?
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Interesting observation Firesign.

Is there a difference Maz? (question only aimed at you as the one person I know who has actually read the legislation concerned)
I think the context might be relevant here.

The Kerlan tweets were part of a sustained bullying campaign and made a specific personal threat. The Davies tweets strike me as more general noise.

But who knows - with Twitter we are in new territory.
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well here are the offensive tweets - as published all over the web

'Which c*** lives in a house like this. Answers on a postcard to #bexleycouncil.'
'It’s silly posting a picture of a house on Twitter without an address, that will come later. Please feel free to post actual s**t.'

I'd like to think that the vast majority of people are intelligent enough not to carry out Mr Kerlan's request.

Would these be the same intelligent people who panicked for petrol only a while ago ?
I expect a handful of people out there would think its a good idea.
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Thought this article worthy of inclusion in this thread. What I found most interesting were the comments of the DC involved in the intial investigation into the Robin Hood airport case.
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I think the context might be relevant here.

The Kerlan tweets were part of a sustained bullying campaign and made a specific personal threat. The Davies tweets strike me as more general noise.

But who knows - with Twitter we are in new territory.
Not sure if it's the same in the UK, but here they have a charge called 'communicating threats'. It can be in the form of verbal, e-mail, telephone, letter etc.

When you threaten to harm someone, it's a big deal - even if you don't mean it. Whilst I can see why many people think the stance against this stuff is a little OTT, personally I don't see the need for people to sit at a computer doling out threats to others. Is defending the right to do so really worthwhile? Is it an a activity that many on here partake in?
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Thought this article worthy of inclusion in this thread. What I found most interesting were the comments of the DC involved in the intial investigation into the Robin Hood airport case.
I'm stunned. Mat ov reading the Guardian.
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I'm stunned. Mat ov reading the Guardian.

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I'm stunned. Mat ov reading the Guardian.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19009344

Personally think at last sense prevails....but hell does that now mean that as the correspondent says " the law, which now clearly accommodates irony, wit and bad taste." means PK posts are legal
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